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Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by geerlingguy »

prox wrote: post #272
geerlingguy wrote: post #13

I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…

Can you use the keyboard.... as a keyboard for other computers?

Yes, I think Gordon Hollingsworth from Raspberry Pi has posted somewhere specifically how to do it (maybe in the comments on the post on the Pi website?).

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by lmns »

numpad0 wrote: post #207
kingosticks wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression most non-awful SD cards had some sort of wear-leveling these days but there's no standard for it so they don't advertise it on the front like SSDs. I couldn't really find any proof either-way about this, just a few instances of people looking into it: - https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/27619/is-it-... - https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/ex7dvo/quick_...

I think every microSD and USB sticks by now has WL across the board, especially at awful grade. WL and ECC are must at current [price, BER, capacity, bit-per-cell] or something.

With USB sticks it's a different story. There are some manufacturers like Sandisk who claim they use wear leveling in all of their current USB sticks.

microSD is a mess in this regard. Wear leveling is less common there and only present in very specific and expensive niche models.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by nojvek »

Is anyone building a RasberryPi powered cellphone? Basically something that has a battery + solar panel + touch screen. A device that is fully operational without any need of peripherals.

Or I guess a more useful device would be a laptop. A chromebook equivalent but powered by rasberry pi and is hopefully kid-proof rugged

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by ralph87 »

bane wrote: post #284

The original vision of the rPi was to stimulate education in the way that the original 8-bit microcomputers did. Those machines were pretty much this exact form-factor, a keyboard with a computer stuck underneath. I really like how this is the same thing, and cheaper than the ZX Spectrum ever was.

It really has instant appeal to me as an adult, but I'm not so sure about target market any more. Kids these days are all glued to their mobile phones, it seems if you want to blow a kid's mind, something that turns their phone into a magic box they can tinker with would be so much better. Something maybe like a combo keyboard with IO breakout ports funnelled over bluetooth, and some matching software development environment closer to GWBASIC or maybe even VB3 than the usual Android toolchain

I'm also concerned this doesn't mention much about how accessible the internals are. Can a kid crack it open?

Meanwhile, totally digging the nostalgia factor. Probably won't buy one, but damn I'd love one

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by cbm-vic-20 »

qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Jeff Geerling (HN:geerlingguy, who is participating in this comments section) has demonstrated using a NVMe drive with the RPi 4 Compute Module and its IO board, which has a PCIe slot.

https://youtu.be/HUamq0ey8_M?t=429

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by azernik »

diehunde wrote: post #356
ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

I was talking to some friends who are teachers about remote learning the other day. They were saying many of their students (they work in rural areas) had the devices but no access to internet. It's a very complex issue now with all the restrictions.

Different students have different challenges. In urban areas, hardware access can be the limiting factor.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by bakul »

geerlingguy wrote: post #13

I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…

Have you tried the coffee spilling test on it yet?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by bstar77 »

bofh23 wrote: post #282
FerretFred wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>simple RPi branded monitor with a Pi built in Oh, I'd definitely be up for that!!

I’d rather have a miniPC-sized Raspberry Pi computer like an Intel NUC or Mac Mini* mounted on the back of a monitor instead of an all-in-one. Monitors have a much longer useful life so all-in-ones (e.g. iMac) eventually become paperweights or e-waste. If they go the all-in-one route they should include an external HDMI port and a switch to choose between it and the internal Raspberry Pi. *: But upgradeable and repai…

Exactly, this is what the VESA mount on the back of your monitor is for. For an almost no effort solution, you can zip tie a pi to the mount bracket and screw it in (some monitors may even be able to power it via usb). Integrating into the monitor's electronics makes no sense.
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