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Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by fomine3 »

okramcivokram wrote: post #102
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Quest and I can tell you that for me (and at least for people like me) the real value is in social games/experiences. I have a hard time going through a solo game (although I haven't tried Half Life Alyx yet) but social stuff are amazing! Everyone should try to play settlers of Catan in VR (it was only available on the Go unfortunately) which was insane! At this point I just want more of my friends to get a…

I also have a Quest and I can tell you that for me there was absolutely no value in social stuff.

Same here.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by e_y_ »

jjn2009 wrote: post #285
dylan604 wrote: post #275

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If you want to get down to a nit picky level like that then, sure. And to be fair, maybe it should be explicitly stated. However, Facebook sells access to the data it collects. It may not be access to the raw data that a phrase like 'selling the data' makes it sound. However, it is making money from the knowledge it has about people (can't even say its users anymore). Either way, the ad buyer (end user) gets access t…

buying peoples data would be a big deal, that's why its not a nit picky detail. I also don't agree with facebook having all of my data in the first place but they don't just tar up my entire life and hand it to someone.

Not on purpose, anyways. In the past they were too lax about letting third-party apps get your data, hence the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by theptip »

Jonanin wrote: post #348
theptip wrote: post #340

Getting torn to shreds in the Ars Technica review: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/review-we-do-not-reco... Even excluding the hard requirement on a Facebook account it seems there were a lot of compromises made to get the price down.

There is something odd about this Ars review. It’s not the normal high quality review I expect from them. There is a lot of subjectivity and plain wrong things stated (like less IR sensors in the controller). The only legit criticisms I picked up are the IPD adjustment and the FB requirement.

Plus the worse head strap and subjectively worse controller responsivity, though seems like some confusion on what is actually different vs. the gen 1 controllers.

If it’s a lower refresh rate and Beat Saber plays worse, that’s a big deal. As you say it’s a subjective analysis so I’ll be looking for others to corroborate or clarify that point.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by _iyig »

Judgmentality wrote: post #360
rubicon33 wrote: post #357

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This review strikes me as weirdly biased. There's a TON to love about this headset. And the price point is simply amazing. Feels to me like the author had an axe to grind.

> There's a TON to love about this headset. And the price point is simply amazing. Like what? Genuinely asking - I've not tried it. I read that review though and while it certainly came across as negative he brought up a LOT of huge negatives (enough that I would never consider it) - but I'm still happy to hear what you like about it!

1.5x the RAM and pixel count compared to the original Quest, for one.

edit: and the 90Hz refresh rate upgrade from the first Quest’s 72Hz is nothing to sneeze at. Very perceptible immersion upgrade for many.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by theptip »

Judgmentality wrote: post #360
rubicon33 wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This review strikes me as weirdly biased. There's a TON to love about this headset. And the price point is simply amazing. Feels to me like the author had an axe to grind.

> There's a TON to love about this headset. And the price point is simply amazing. Like what? Genuinely asking - I've not tried it. I read that review though and while it certainly came across as negative he brought up a LOT of huge negatives (enough that I would never consider it) - but I'm still happy to hear what you like about it!

Better cpu and more pixels per eye would be the improvements that stood out to me. (Lack of display-per-eye might net out to neutral or even negative on the display though, especially if your IPD is not in one of the sweet spots).

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by Judgmentality »

_iyig wrote: post #364
Judgmentality wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's a TON to love about this headset. And the price point is simply amazing. Like what? Genuinely asking - I've not tried it. I read that review though and while it certainly came across as negative he brought up a LOT of huge negatives (enough that I would never consider it) - but I'm still happy to hear what you like about it!

1.5x the RAM and pixel count compared to the original Quest, for one. edit: and the 90Hz refresh rate upgrade from the first Quest’s 72Hz is nothing to sneeze at. Very perceptible immersion upgrade for many.

Except the original had 2 screens and the new one has 1 screen - it seems like a questionable compromise (at least the Ars reviewer certainly hated it). But again, I've not tried it.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by _iyig »

istorical wrote: post #186
how2draw wrote: post #148

So, are there any sex games or is this going to be yet another walled kindergarten like we're used to nowadays?

there are sex games for the Oculus Quest 1 (and a streaming pornhub style app). seems very unlikely Facebook would be stupid enough to intefere with the latter, not sure about the former.

Apps aren’t even required. Mozilla Firefox for VR implements WebVR. Many adult sites can seamlessly play VR content via this plugin. Navigate to the site as normal in Firefox VR, hit play on a VR video, and there you are.

...or so I am reliably informed.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by fomine3 »

theptip wrote: post #340

Getting torn to shreds in the Ars Technica review: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/review-we-do-not-reco... Even excluding the hard requirement on a Facebook account it seems there were a lot of compromises made to get the price down.

It seems that ars' review is very biased to be bad compared to other reviews.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by lancewiggs »

theptip wrote: post #340

Getting torn to shreds in the Ars Technica review: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/review-we-do-not-reco... Even excluding the hard requirement on a Facebook account it seems there were a lot of compromises made to get the price down.

It's odd to the point of deliberate that the press release does not mention Facebook at all. If they truly believe it is a benefit then it would be mentioned.

Rather we can infer that Occulus understands the issues with the hardline on Facebook login, and wish to avoid more backlash.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

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Post by __david__ »

screye wrote: post #208

I worry that Quest-2 will be the death of VR as the next UX frontier. VR tech is still a few years away from being 'seamless'. Historically, such moonshot ideas have only worked when they develop as expensive hobbies for years, until the tech catches up and they can be offered at a reasonable price. Facebook seems to want to skip that step. Give people a half-baked product before it is ready for the market. It is a r…

> Give people a half-baked product before it is ready for the market.

Sony already did that. Playstation VR has outsold Oculus by a very large margin. Its tracking is terrible, but "good enough" for basic stuff and the price point was great when it was released. The Quest is competitive now, but the PSVR grabbed a bunch of the low end market (5 million units worth) by being there first and having an established brand name attached.

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