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Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by skeptic76 »

As far as my understanding goes, companies of any size have the right to exercise a sort of capital strike at their discretion. The perfectly legal shuttering of The Gothamist after their newsroom unionized a while back is a good example of that (the story is a fascinating read!) (0)

I would honestly love to hear from those that aren't favorable towards unions about why it's acceptable for business management and ownership to punitively destroy jobs and value over ideological issues, but it's unacceptable for the employees to have that option as part of collective bargaining?

(0) https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/03/561830256...

Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by BoiledCabbage »

dantheman wrote: post #323
celticninja wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they offenders were arrested, tried and punished. The difference here is the police are never subject to the same justice.

And why are police never punished, because police unions. Unions in their modern form are granted special privileges by the government and use those privileges to extort society. There is nothing wrong with people joining groups, collective bargaining, etc -- the problem is that they are given special privileges by the state.

I don't even understand what you're arguing. Aren't corporations given special privileges by the state? Are you against that well? Can you clarify what you're arguing here?

Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by 205guy »

csb6 wrote: post #125
dencodev wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's less about education, and more about "fuck you got mine" for a website full of engineers whose average salary is probably 6x that of the average American

It’s partially self-interest, true, but speaking for Americans, there really is no widespread, institutional education on what labor unions are or do, and what benefits they can bring. Most people simply don’t think about them or believe whatever their employers’ PSAs tell them to believe because no one else ever talks about labor organizing to them.

Agreed. My high school economics education was limited to supply and demand curves. It would be so beneficial to having a class about household budgeting, loans and interest, credit rating, mortgages, property, investment, stocks, LLCs/corporations, capital, unions, labor law, taxes, government budget, deficit, trade balance, etc. All the things that people have to learn later in life, hear biased people/media who pretend to know the answers, or never really understand (I guess such a course wouldn't get to Quantitative Easing anyway).

Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by DenisM »

wnevets wrote: post #78

Whenever unions are mentioned on HN there always seems to be a coordinated effort to attack them in the comments, very interesting.

From HN guidelines:

Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

csb6 wrote: post #125
dencodev wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's less about education, and more about "fuck you got mine" for a website full of engineers whose average salary is probably 6x that of the average American

It’s partially self-interest, true, but speaking for Americans, there really is no widespread, institutional education on what labor unions are or do, and what benefits they can bring. Most people simply don’t think about them or believe whatever their employers’ PSAs tell them to believe because no one else ever talks about labor organizing to them.

> "...there really is no widespread, institutional education on what labor unions are or do, and what benefits they can bring"

I watched the UAW's behavior in Detroit for a couple of decades. That's all the education anyone needs to conclude that unions aren't in anyone's best interest.

Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’

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Post by dcre »

refurb wrote: post #255
dcre wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's controversial because it's blatantly illegal under the National Labor Relations Act. https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1300856270572916736

Gathering information on union organizing is illegal? I don’t think so. Spying, yes, but I don’t see that in the description. And your Twitter post is gone.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3azegw/amazon-is-spying-o...
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