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Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by dragonwriter » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

groby_b wrote: post #97

msla wrote: post #75

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> awful hip pocket bulges Who says they're awful? Why do they say that? We must be informed and skeptical consumers.

Can we have opinions on our clothes without having to give every random person on the Internet a full justification? Why yes, yes we can. But, OK, let's answer it. The first answer is right in the fine article: Hip pockets lead to bad posture when sitting. They cause back pain. The second answer is that if you dress for aesthetic instead of functional reasons, one of the very first concerns is silhouette. And if you…

> Can we have opinions on our clothes without having to give every random person on the Internet a full justification?

If you phrase them as universals, thereby implicitly criticizing everyone who has different tastes, expect pushback from everyone whose tastes disagree.

If you phrase it as personal preference and accept the less dramatic expression that that supports, you’ll get less pushback.

If you phrase it as a universal and then have an offended response to the pushback because people should respect the difference in tastes, then, well, you've got a reasonable complaint but are directing it in the wrong direction.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by KozmoNau7 » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:36 PM UTC

rattray wrote: post #359

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #221

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>Cargo pants are not the solution here, as they are huge and baggy and the pockets flop around with anything in them. You're getting the wrong pants if that's the case. For a time now, I've been buying work pants almost exclusively. Not the cargo pants with flappy hip pockets, but the lighter duty work pants or "service pants", though I'm not 100% sure of the correct english word for them. They're work pants, but not…

Is this the one? https://www.blaklader.com/en/product/16251370-blaklader-work...

Those are good, but my absolute favorites are the X1400 pants, which are now sadly discontinued.

For shorts, I really like their Unite shorts in ripstop polycotton.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by mavhc » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

skinkestek wrote: post #352

eli wrote: post #295

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Probably google ads. You can click the little x in the corner and make that particular ad go away.

Lucky you people: I've been followed around the web for over ten years with Google ads for scammy dating sites (since Zoosk if anyone can remember that). When I click the x I only get another scammy dating site. And unlike GP I cannot remember visiting one in the first place :-/

Can't you change your google ad preferences?

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by mavhc » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:57 PM UTC

randomchars wrote: post #342

Zhenya wrote: post #308

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Refusing to wear clothes that's out of style is racist and classist. I've heard it all now.

Yeah, parent is a bit out of touch with reality. Especially funny, considering: 1. In lots of places most manual work is done by white people, who as I've heard can't be targets of racism. 2. Manual labor can be a very well paying job.

They can be, just ask Faux News

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by hinkley » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:05 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #190

jessewmc wrote: post #55

The dismissiveness in this thread is unreal. From the comments you'd think the article only had one sentence insulting the Sanctity of Cargo Pants. If you happily wear baggy jeans or cargo pants, these are not for you and you don't have the problem they solve. It's an elegant solution to wear slim fitted pants without awful hip pocket bulges. Cargo pants are not the solution here, as they are huge and baggy and the p…

Interestingly I have a pair of pants (these: https://www.duluthtrading.com/mens-duluthflex-dry-on-the-fly... , see pocket detail here: https://www.duluthtrading.com/dw/image/v2/BBNM_PRD/on/demand... ) They implement this pocket strategy and work well for me. The author would likely be interested to know that this topic was covered in detail as an engineering exercise in NASA flight suits. More functional pockets for…

Does Duluth have a single pair of pants without synthetic fibers at this point? Trying to cut down my micro plastics footprint. (My base layers can be drip dried, which makes them less problematic)

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by hinkley » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:08 PM UTC

maire wrote: post #152

jessewmc wrote: post #55

The dismissiveness in this thread is unreal. From the comments you'd think the article only had one sentence insulting the Sanctity of Cargo Pants. If you happily wear baggy jeans or cargo pants, these are not for you and you don't have the problem they solve. It's an elegant solution to wear slim fitted pants without awful hip pocket bulges. Cargo pants are not the solution here, as they are huge and baggy and the p…

For women the problem is worse since we are too curvy to use the exact location of pockets even when clothes are baggy. I find the solution interesting even for women. I solved the same problem by putting the pockets horizontally at the waist. I will try moving the pocket down to the upper leg.

I have heard that it may be cheaper to have a pair of off the shelf pants tailored than to keep looking for the perfect fit (eg among more niche products).

I wonder how much extra you’d pay for extra pockets.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by Zenbit_UX » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 8:49 PM UTC

maccard wrote: post #86

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #49

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I'm currently at work (thank Pomodoro for HN breaks, curse Murphy for causing everything to fall apart at the same time on a Friday). I'm a college-educated, homeowner, married, father of one, controls engineer. I spend my days at work between my office programming and designing industrial automation equipment, on the shop floor building it, and customer sites selling, upgrading, or maintaining it. I'm not a punk kid…

Columbia Flex Roc [0] are not really what I would consider cargo pants. Most people talking about cargo pants are talking about something like a G Star Raw Rovic [1] (which are about the slimmest fitting ones I can find). Another commenter mentioned fitting a notebook & pen in pockets - I'd struggle to fit them in your current pants. [0] https://columbia.scene7.com/is/image/ColumbiaSportswear2/179... [1] https://www.…

As someone shocked how many of the commenters here are wearing cargo pants, I'll admit those gstar ones look pretty good and modern. That said, I think you're being very generous by suggesting this crowd is on the cutting edge of cargo pants fashion with slim fit and modern silhouettes.

This seems more likely: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dork+in+cargo+pants&t=fpas&iar=ima...

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by yencabulator » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

nvrspyx wrote: post #276

hristov wrote: post #181

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Guess what, people do not like being insulted. If you are going to say to a large number of people that their clothes and by extension them "look bad" you are going to get a lot of pissed off responses. It is completely healthy and miles better than the alternative of internalizing it, believing you look bad feeling embarrassment, humiliation, guilt, etc. By the way this is the way the fashion industry has operated f…

Where did the author insult cargo pants users? This is all I saw mentioning cargo pants in the article. > Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? > No. Cargo pants solve different problems for different people. > If cargo pants are appropriate for your daily life, you definitely don’t want or need my side-seam welt pockets; and vice-versa. Cargo pants aren’t office-wear; these dress pants aren’t combat-w…

> Cargo pants aren’t office-wear

That sounds like an awfully pretentious office, that I personally would never agree to work in.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by yencabulator » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:46 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #60

thebooktocome wrote: post #56

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I don't think you missed the mark. Some people just like military cosplay a lot and get offended when you call out what they're doing.

And some people just like having lots of pockets and don't care how it looks.

And some people don't think tight pants look good.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by yencabulator » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

usrusr wrote: post #123

jablan wrote: post #41

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Certainly sounds like an attack. As if someone can't wear cargo pants simply for their utility or, god forbid, find them actually aesthetically appealing.

Lots of jobs do come with a sartorial difficulty level above absolute zero. Not all jobs, but many. Particularly for women (which would be a whole new can of worms we better shouldn't open here) A widespread low-but-definitely-nonzero would be that you can absolutely wear what you like, but half of the informal roles that are within the scope of your job description are effectively closed unless you dress the part.

Why would that be defensible or desirable?

The blog author comes across as fetishizing that shallow, expensive, your-opinion-dictated-by-fashion, world.