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Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

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Re: Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

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I use Venstar thermostats with Home Assistant. They're totally fine, but wifi only I believe. Local API, so no cloud nonsense. I've been running them for about a year with no major problems.

They don't seem to be available in Europe, the thermostat market is surprisingly local, i.e. we also don't have Ecobee here. The Venstars do looks nice indeed.

Hmmm maybe eBay (i got one of mine there)?

Re: Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

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> The goal of the Connected Home over IP project is to simplify development for manufacturers... > The industry working group will take an open-source approach for the development and implementation of a new, unified connectivity protocol and increase compatibility for consumers. Curious if I as a hobbyist will benefit from this? Or if this will become a: it works perfectly, but only if all your devices connect to ou…

I really hope they recognize the need that people want to keep their data on their lan. Actually that would be required by the GDPR if they won't let me sign anything. My derived data is my own people, it does not belong to who ever collects it. I.e. I just want a thermostat the is a big rotating button and speaks mqtt. It does not exist. If you want it to look good you end up with a Nest thermostat. Home Assistant n…

https://iot.mozilla.org -- can easily install the WebThings Gateway on a Raspberry Pi, or in a Docker container, or CLI install to a Linux box. It runs locally in your home. No cloud account, no cloud data center dependency, command and control accessible from the web UI served up by the home gateway. Local voice commands are possible too. My "home smart home" stays in my home. :)

Re: Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

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I assure you chime and amazon and google have all been caught sending back the audio

I'd never use it myself excepting maybe video only for a burglar alarm, but because Marshall worked on home automation protocols, he loves this stuff. I always had nightmares the damn "smart light bulbs" in the 2nd street office were listening in on our conversations.

Oh now i know what marshall you are talking about.Yea, that's just dumb

Re: Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

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For someone who thinks Zigbee already is an open standard, well, it is NOT really open though. A standard being publicity available does not always make it open-source friendly. Linux considers it a proprietary protocol [1] so Zigbee driver cannot be part of Linux kernel. Although Zigbee spec allows non-commercial individuals to freely use it, a commercial organization must be a member of the Zigbee Alliance in order…

I'm sort of reminded of the book "Schiit Happened" from the Schiit guys (they make cool headphone amps). They documented how they started their business. One thing they mentioned is that apart from RCA jacks, all the surround sound standards are tied up and closed.

Anyone else knowing any industries where "standards are tied up and closed"?
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