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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by c0vfefe »

Ayesh wrote: post #355
orpheline wrote: post #101

I'm apparently one of those rare people who never switched off Firefox - it's been my default browser on Mac and Linux for years. Open source, good plugin ecosystem, and does everything I need (not a web developer, so the dev tools were never a strong selling point for me). I've used Chrome here and there through the years, but the more invasive Google became about data collection, the less inclined I've been to use…

I didn't switch to Chrome at all either, and I am a web developer too. I liked the Firebug for web development, and the built-in dev tools that came later was good for me too. Sometimes even better than Chrome's. In a comparison today, Firefox dev tools still are better with a nice profiler, font tab, CSS layout helper, etc. The only few things I use Chrome's dev tools are for their CSS/JS code coverage tools and acc…

Firebug has now been mostly integrated into the main dev tools.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by CryptoBanker »

CryptoBanker wrote: post #52

I switched back to Chrome from Firefox. FF was slow, bloated, used all my RAM,no add on support (even for those add-ons who had an an FF product) Mobile sites, especially HN just don't work properly on HF. The simple act of collapsing posts often seems to overwhelm the browser on my Pixel. Not to mention there's this bug where videos create notifications on FF Android, and these notifications keep your phone alive fr…

Cannot cancel downloads either

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by nvrspyx »

jhasse wrote: post #170
nvrspyx wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re talking about the keyboard shortcut. It’s much quicker to use CMD + Q to quit any app on Mac, but Chrome insists on making you hold it down. Clicking through the menus defeats the purpose and misses the point. I’ve turned to using Alfred and typing “qgc” to Quit Google Chrome, although I use Alfred for most navigation now.

I know, I meant that "configuring it back" is just one click on "Warn Before Quitting" in the Chrome menu. See https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/340517

Oh wow. I thought you were referring to simply clicking Quit in the menu. Thank you for this. I hadn’t realized that was an option. It has bugged me for a long time.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by darkpuma »

techntoke wrote: post #283
nottorp wrote: post #128

Interesting that the adblock thing is finally nudging people away from Chrome. I've found it disrespectful of its users long ago. The last straw for me was when it started to prevent my computer from sleeping because some unspecified page had active WebRTC connections. There is no option to disable WebRTC in Chrome. I don't understand: why do they dare prevent my system from sleeping just because some page is doing s…

There is no adblock thing. Chrome isn't disabling adblockers. They are changing the API to speed it up and extension developers are whining because they have to make some changes which will give users better performance.

That's such a gross misrepresentation of the issue it's borderline malicious.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by onetom »

phaer wrote: post #263
onetom wrote: post #259

I switched about a year ago and I was also pleasantly surprised, UNITL I've realized that it's eating up several GIGABYTES!!! of memory, even when I just have a handful of tabs open. What's worst, it doesn't releases all the memory when I just close the tabs! When I restart FF and cycle thru the tabs to make sure they are loaded, it uses a lot less but still in the GB range. I compared the same set of tabs in Chrome…

Do you have actual memory usage issues? Is a lack of memory causing problems for other applications? I am asking because RAM is meant to be used, high allocations to Firefox on a (mostly) idle system isn't too interesting as a metric on its own and should automatically decrease if others need it.

I had ~1GB swapped out on 32GB 3.4GHz quad i7 machine. 5GB was taken up by ~8 tabs in FF. I noticed it because IntelliJ and Android Studio started to be suspiciously laggy. I mean laggier than usual :) After stopping FF, the IDEs went back to normal. Processor usage was negligible when I was not touching the system, so it wasn't caused by some runaway js code on some webpage.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by techntoke »

darkpuma wrote: post #364
techntoke wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no adblock thing. Chrome isn't disabling adblockers. They are changing the API to speed it up and extension developers are whining because they have to make some changes which will give users better performance.

That's such a gross misrepresentation of the issue it's borderline malicious.

Really? What proof do you have? Sure looks that way to me:

https://twitter.com/justinschuh/status/1141098603605135360

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by funkjunky »

It's a nitpick, but also a deal killer for me. The way Firefox behaves when you click the address bar on Android absolutely infuriates me. The way chrome immediately clears the address, and gives you buttons to either copy the current address to clipboard, share, or edit, is brilliant and makes it a joy to use. Therefore I use chrome.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by ZuLuuuuuu »

yoasif_ wrote: post #314
ZuLuuuuuu wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox Sync does not have synchronization of contacts, calendar or map locations.

There is a contact manager and calendar in Chrome? When did Chrome become a PIM?

My original post is about Mozilla creating a suite of services so that people switch to Mozilla ecosystem which would, IMO, increase the usage of Firefox as well. Chrome itself does not have contact manager or calendar but Google ecosystem has.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by darkpuma »

techntoke wrote: post #366
darkpuma wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's such a gross misrepresentation of the issue it's borderline malicious.

Really? What proof do you have? Sure looks that way to me: https://twitter.com/justinschuh/status/1141098603605135360

Just for starters, fact that the change will in fact give users worse performance than existing extensions like ublock origin provide, because ad blockers under the new scheme will be less effective and the performance impact of ads that get through will MORE than offset any supposed performance gains of the declarative API. It is technologically impossible to create a state of the art adblocker with that declarative API. It's complete trash and Google knows it.

Do yourself a favor and go look up what gorhill has written about the matter. To say that the messaging coming out of google about this change has been intellectually bankrupt is putting it too nicely.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by lenkite »

I wish firefox could use the locally installed certificate store of the OS. This doesn't seem to be possible. You have to manually export and import certificates into Firefox's store. And on IT controlled Windows and MacOS desktop's, certificate+priv key export is disabled. So, one needs to stick to Chrome.
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