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Here’s a recent review of science we have on the issue. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754
Where's the 300% number? Unfortunately, I don't have access to the text. In the abstract, they're only claiming "positive association."
I've always thought two things: - Subway should have leaned into their use of soy in their deli meat [1] and came in from the high end with it being the more expensive, high end, healthier, better for the environment product - There should be high end burger chain which give you an eighth of a pound real meat burger patty for taste reasons and an eighth of a pound vegetarian patty for health and environment reasons.…
> Asian means of eating tofu is fundamentally different from the vegitarian way of eating tofu. The Asian means of preparation is typically 75% tofu and 25% is meat for taste. Am from Asia and I've never heard and seen this in my life. Tofu is _never_ mixed with meat. That's a bit of an absurd statement as tofu and meat have nothing in common unless frozen and deepfried (then tofu has a texture of chicken).
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> In what way exactly would "eating more veggies" be much better when meat is already the only nutritionally complete[1] food Easy, meat has no fiber. Western (read: American) diet consists of over consumption of meat, refined sugar, and processed grains, and woeful lack of vegetables, and lesser extent fruits. If the value of Beyond Meat is "better for you, better for environment", the health benefits seem dubious a…
> Most of us on the western diet, would do better to increase our consumption of veggies. Yet originally you phrased it as if it were a general truth, so as to (intentionally or unintentionally) have the effect of misleading your fellow humans not born and raised or influenced by dietary patterns of your country, which is what my query was (is) all about.
I've always thought two things: - Subway should have leaned into their use of soy in their deli meat [1] and came in from the high end with it being the more expensive, high end, healthier, better for the environment product - There should be high end burger chain which give you an eighth of a pound real meat burger patty for taste reasons and an eighth of a pound vegetarian patty for health and environment reasons.…
> Asian means of eating tofu is fundamentally different from the vegitarian way of eating tofu. The Asian means of preparation is typically 75% tofu and 25% is meat for taste. Am from Asia and I've never heard and seen this in my life. Tofu is _never_ mixed with meat. That's a bit of an absurd statement as tofu and meat have nothing in common unless frozen and deepfried (then tofu has a texture of chicken).
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> I completely agree with you that the world would be a better place if "everyone were to suddenly switch to being vegan." The point is that in aggregate, not much is ever going to change in the short term How does social change happen? It is slow. But it has been happening. Not only are people becoming vegetarian or vegan, but those options are increasingly seen as valid, occasional choices for meat eaters as well.…
>This is a much different argument than you have been making. You're (now) saying people can't be persuaded not to kill animals, so we should do so in a more humane way. Can you help me to understand where i contradicted myself?
I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…
This is what I'd really like to see mainstream restaurants take up. Even in London, restaurants that position themselves as healthy (such as Pret or EAT) have maybe one or two organic things on their menu. I'd really like to see them take a stand against the conditions that animals are raised in. There are plenty of vegetarian or vegan options, but what if you just want some meat that wasn't raised in a factory?
I've always felt quorn ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn ) got a raw deal. They made some stupid marketing positions, they allowed the agenda to get ramped up around allergy when its ratio of risk is significantly lower than other foods including soy, and they walked into a battery hen issue needlessly. But the fundamentals look pretty good. Its a bioreactor, it scales, it can use varying feedstock, and its good…
A lot of their products contain eggs, which sort of defeats the purpose of making plant based alternatives.
It wasn't initially about vegetarianism as a holistic view avoiding animal products, as much as fending off starvation from lack of food. If they had found a way to make beef farming productive enough I think they would would have gone there. The input was surplus product from a flour producer. I don't think they were radical vegetarians.
They did subsequently get on the vegan bandwagon but had lost market momentum, and the whole 'fusarium is not a mushroom' and 'you are allergens' kind of killed it for a while.
I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…
> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…
With the current global adult (ages 15-64) population of approximately 5B your method would need 5B/4 = 1.25B cows. The current global cattle population is about 1B [0]
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263979/global-cattle-pop...
I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…
> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…