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Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by Klonoar »

sodosopa wrote: post #346
shard972 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know of a WH official that was ever against the surveillance state? And why does trump picking him make him automatically a disaster? I feel like this is being completely dismissive of any kind of progress that could be made because orange man is bad.

> And why does trump picking him make him automatically a disaster? Because President Trump doesn't have a great record in picking nor retaining people. https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-...

Pretty much this, yeah. Just because we're on HN doesn't mean reality (GOP rot) goes out the window.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by _hyn3 »

mrawesome8 wrote: post #337
cheez wrote: post #195

If uBlock stops working... I stop using Chrome. Simple as that.

I highly suggest looking into Opera. It is also based on Chromium and therefore backwards compatible with extensions, bookmarks, etc. I switched around 6 months ago and haven't looked back since! They have built in VPN, adblocker, Turbo, screenshot, news, and more! Been really happy with it so far.

Opera is now owned by a Chinese consortium and quite possibly embeds spyware. Check out Brave, instead, which is founded by the inventor of Javascript and extremely privacy-focused.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

village-idiot wrote: post #66
metalliqaz wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comments in the linked thread don't really go into why this change was made, but I think Google deserves the benefit of the doubt that the proposal was made in an effort to improve other aspects of the browser (speed or maintainability, for example)

No sane person should give Google the benefit of the doubt, triply so when it comes to ads and ad-blocking.

Indeed. A company worth $0.8 trillion dollars does not need Internet commenters to defend or make excuses for it.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by iaw »

scrollaway wrote: post #233
iaw wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no evidence the change is being made with the intent of getting rid of adblockers So far there is only one rationale that could describe the motivation to make this change. Can you propose another possible motive? I am personally struggling.

My understanding of the changes is that they make sense for most extensions, but gorhill's addons are being negatively impacted by them because of the way they were implemented. You'll note it's still possible to implement content blocking in the new system.

As others have pointed out the blacklist capabilities are severely inhibited in the new system. Could you elaborate on how the changes make sense? It feels like their messaging behind this is off if their intent truly is benign.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by keithnz »

unwabuisi wrote: post #147

For those that have migrated from Chrome to Firefox recently, what adjustments did you have to make/get used to in Firefox?

I changed last year? ( whenever the quantum beta came out )

now I live between the two browsers. For the most, there is no real difference and for both browsers, holes can be plugged with plugins. ( One nice thing I like out of the box for FF is that it supports column selection which makes my life easier on some web pages I have to use regularly )

I like the web development tools on firefox, and usually use them over chromes

The only few things I've really had an issue with is a particular wiki page in my works confluence system that seems to go incredibly slowly on firefox and I end up using chrome to edit that page. The other is sometimes firefox doesn't open a new tab in a new tab if the tab bar has a lot of tabs if I'm using the UI ( I use vimium on both chrome and FF and it can open tabs no matter what )

Other than that, I have this very subjective "feeling" that chrome feels just a wee bit nicer than FF.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by DanielRibeiro »

metalliqaz wrote: post #183
dragonwriter wrote: post #114

The design doc — the part quoted in the note linked here even — explicitly notes that it will probably be required to retain some degree of the existing functionality slated for eventually removal until the new API and other replacements cover all use cases; the response linked here appears to (not improperly, in the context of making a case for why much of the functionality is needed) ignoring that and treating the…

But the design document only mentions retaining the old API for features that aren't possible with the new API, such as onAuthRequired. So it would still cripple uBlock

I really like the point the uBlock maintainer's make:

"Extensions act on behalf of users, they add capabilities to a user agent, and deprecating the blocking ability of the webRequest API will essentially decrease the level of user agency in Chromium, to the benefit of web sites which obviously would be happy to have the last word in what resources their pages can fetch/execute/render."

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by darkpuma »

londons_explore wrote: post #336
kabes wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what else takes up massive amounts of CPU and slows down a typical chrome instance? Sites filled with ads.

In my tests (albeit a few years ago), the actual text content on web pages was slowed down slightly by adblock plus. I measured with a video recording of the screen, and considered a page complete when the title and main body text of a page were loaded. It became a dramatic slowdown with a slow CPU. I made a performance patch which saved 40% CPU time (by making a new css selector matcher). I even tried to submit the…

Adblock Plus is complete shit. uBlock Origin and uMatrix wipe the floor with Adblock Plus.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by GranPC »

euske wrote: post #141

Next move by Google: slowly crippling the functions of most Google sites (YT, Gmail, etc.) on Firefox for "better UX on major browsers." You see? Power corrupts.

This is already happening. The new Gmail redesign is borderline unusable and uses up 60% CPU just to display a plain text email, and YouTube's latest update is slower in Firefox because they use a Chrome specific API.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by mrtweetyhack »

AYBABTME wrote: post #167
OptionX wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trading Google overlords for Apple overlords does not seem like an upgrade.

With Apple, you're the customer, not the product. For one, Apple defends and doesn't sell your data.

for now and not if the share holders have anything to say about it
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