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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by pmarreck »

paul7986 wrote: post #91

I met/had a similar experience with Google ATAP in 2013 (was Motorala ATAP then; Google recently bought them) though not for a job interview but to discuss working together to build our tech SpeakerBlast into the Moto X. They asked if we ever thought about selling our technology to them before the meeting and at the meeting they baited us for how our tech worked saying we'd like to work with you tell us how it works.…

This is a level of douchiness I cannot fathom. What possesses these people to act in this fashion and how do they sleep at night? How is this not seen as clearly unethical behavior? A clear violation of Wheaton's Law, here.

I mean... I could easily take that lollipop from that naïve baby in that baby carriage... but I don't, simply because I'm Not A Dick™.

Did all of Silicon Valley get the wrong takeaway from the Apple/Xerox thing, or something?

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by mr_overalls »

pmarreck wrote: post #361
paul7986 wrote: post #91

I met/had a similar experience with Google ATAP in 2013 (was Motorala ATAP then; Google recently bought them) though not for a job interview but to discuss working together to build our tech SpeakerBlast into the Moto X. They asked if we ever thought about selling our technology to them before the meeting and at the meeting they baited us for how our tech worked saying we'd like to work with you tell us how it works.…

This is a level of douchiness I cannot fathom. What possesses these people to act in this fashion and how do they sleep at night? How is this not seen as clearly unethical behavior? A clear violation of Wheaton's Law, here. I mean... I could easily take that lollipop from that naïve baby in that baby carriage... but I don't, simply because I'm Not A Dick™. Did all of Silicon Valley get the wrong takeaway from the App…

Money. And money. And pathological drive to win.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by [deleted] »

virmundi wrote: post #328
velcrovan wrote: post #305

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I think the Satanists actually have this mindset. Seems like I'm frequently seeing headlines about them doing good works and stuff.

Most Satanists do not believe in Satan. They do not worship the individual, directly, named Satan who is found in the Christian religion. Satanists look at Satan, especially Milton's Satan as a literary figure who embodies individualism and free thought. To that end, they are edgy Libertarians.

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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by Consultant32452 »

nobody22453 wrote: post #326
PurpleBoxDragon wrote: post #266

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That's why it should just be under neurology.

The "-logy" comes from Greek which means science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-logy and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%...

What about Scientology which has both science and ology? Is it science science?

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by pmarreck »

mr_overalls wrote: post #362
pmarreck wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a level of douchiness I cannot fathom. What possesses these people to act in this fashion and how do they sleep at night? How is this not seen as clearly unethical behavior? A clear violation of Wheaton's Law, here. I mean... I could easily take that lollipop from that naïve baby in that baby carriage... but I don't, simply because I'm Not A Dick™. Did all of Silicon Valley get the wrong takeaway from the App…

Money. And money. And pathological drive to win.

It's sneaky and underhanded and shady and evil.

Let's use a different real-world example. An acquaintance shows me an "attic treasure" that I know is worth at least $20k on the open market. Do I offer them $100 and not tell them what it might really be worth? Does it depend on how well I know them?

In my case, even if I did not know the person at all and never expected to interact with them again (basically, the recipe for non-cooperation, according to Axelrod's https://smile.amazon.com/Evolution-Cooperation-Revised-Rober...), I'd offer them about $5k (given some reselling risk and effort on my part, which I believe is worth at least some of the difference). If they were smart then they'd refuse and do their own homework. If they simply wanted to accept the price, they could.

I would NOT offer to take it off their hands for free. "More space in your attic!"

I'm sure that Google didn't owe this woman anything and didn't know her from a hole in the wall but... This is just machiavellian ruthlessness.

Don't be greedy, people. Make mutually-beneficial deals. It's not zero-sum (even though the particulars on how it's possible to not be zero-sum still escape me and hurt my head).

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by excalibur »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #364
nobody22453 wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "-logy" comes from Greek which means science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-logy and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%...

What about Scientology which has both science and ology? Is it science science?

I think that's like a double negative. Which would imply that Scientology actually IS science, which is ridiculous of course. I think "science" in the title only means "not science" when conveyed in the language you're currently using.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by jayd16 »

I'm really not surprised or upset. Its not like Google is known for using patents to crush others. The patent system is fucked up enough that they have to try to patent everything they work on and hope to either get the patent, or as in this case, prove its unpatentable through prior art.

Its a fucked up system but I don't think its as sinister people are making it out to be.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by paul7986 »

dwild wrote: post #308
nathan_f77 wrote: post #261

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Wow that's crazy. I didn't know they did stuff like that. Also I didn't know Google had patents for syncing audio across phones. I wonder if any of the mobile apps (like AmpMe [1]) have to pay some license fees. I once spent an evening researching the different apps that could sync audio across multiple devices [2]. I also wanted to build my own app, so tried to see if it would be possible (only if you have a jailbro…

> AmpMe app can sync audio across multiple phones. (I was also really surprised to find out that they're a pretty huge company with 20 full time employees.) The owner is a sketchy guy that made his money using adware (and still is) named Wajam. I guess AmpMe is what he hope will be his legit way to make money. Until it happens, it's probably bleeding money and is founded by his adware company.

Do you know AmpMe's owner?

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by Paul-ish »

setquk wrote: post #216
StudentStuff wrote: post #109

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Repeated unethical behavior is not the fault of a few bad actors, but of an organization designed to encourage that behavior. I wouldn't discount Google as being at fault seeing as how we already have two instances of Google's ATAP committing patent fraud despite little research and outreach being done. One fun fact I stumbled across is any misconduct when filing for a patent voids the entire patent application, not…

Assholes hire assholes. Eventually the assholes all float to the top and make asshole decisions. You can't win. This is a failure mode of every organisation I have ever seen.

Is there any evidence of this? I've seen assholes work for nice people as well.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Post by Piskvorrr »

_pgmf wrote: post #330
Waterluvian wrote: post #181

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Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king.

John 19:21, Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.

...And Pilate said "whatever, I'm not gonna rewrite this."
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