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It's about exclusion. The Marx family were Jews. Men-only clubs (just "clubs" back then) excluded Jews. Groucho's feigning snobbery was self-deprecating, but also allegorical. Walled gardens are for suckers.
Thanks very much for the explanation, and I'm sorry for my initial tone/wrongness.
Leap: An Online Community for Women
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No, having separate bathrooms is not sexist. Because the term sexism refers to negative issues only. Webster's uses the word "discrimination". Which I assume you are being pedantic and interpreting in a broader context like "discriminating between the colors blue and teal". But lookup discriminate and it has a few meanings. One of which refers to prejudicial or unfair treatment. That is the definition implied when re…
I don't agree. If sexism refers to the negative issues only then what is the word for the positive issues of dividing people up by sex?
Every major dictionary specifically uses terms like "prejudice", "discrimination against", "stereotype". There is obviously a consensus that it is referring to negative/unequal treatment.
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>> I am cis-gendered female and exhibit a lot of conversational traits typically identified as male-patterned. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed? I concede I haven't considered women with atypical behaviours so I'll be honest and say I don't know how to answer your question. My guess is that cis women being a bit confrontational (if I intepret that right) is going to be much less disruptive, or divisive, than tra…
I can't edit my post. I wanted to add that it's not just the internet postings of vicious, transphobic trolls that have made me think. It's things like the controversy around Fallon Fox; or, the story of a trans woman who received an award for women entrepreneurs thanks to the success of a company she set up while living as a man. Stories that show that sometimes, trans women can really run roughshod over the interes…
Re: Leap: An Online Community for Women
#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> I am cis-gendered female and exhibit a lot of conversational traits typically identified as male-patterned. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed? I concede I haven't considered women with atypical behaviours so I'll be honest and say I don't know how to answer your question. My guess is that cis women being a bit confrontational (if I intepret that right) is going to be much less disruptive, or divisive, than tra…
I can't edit my post. I wanted to add that it's not just the internet postings of vicious, transphobic trolls that have made me think. It's things like the controversy around Fallon Fox; or, the story of a trans woman who received an award for women entrepreneurs thanks to the success of a company she set up while living as a man. Stories that show that sometimes, trans women can really run roughshod over the interes…
This is an issue I have been uncomfortably aware for a while. I have never before seen anyone comment on it.
Let me suggest that your awareness of it makes you someone I would prefer to have around in a women's group.
I say this as someone who has been burned on this very issue, repeatedly so. But I would prefer to seek a path forward for both cishet women and trans women, one that victimizes neither. That path won't be found without people like you.
If Leap is something you feel would benefit you, I hope you will reconsider your position and join it. If it doesn't work out to your satisfaction for any reason, you can always stop participating.