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Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by Kiro »

ashark wrote: post #323
Kiro wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DuckDuckGo does the same. I think you're exaggerating.

It’s the Internet equivalent of guys who go door to door selling old people driveway treatments and crappy brick façades they don’t need, at obscene markup. Preying on the least able to defend themselves. If you have any friends or relatives who aren’t “good at computers” Google tricks them for money, as a core part of their business model. And yeah, it’s bottom-feeding scum behavior any time you see it, fit for fail…

You didn't address the DDG part. I know you're an advocate.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by zacvivo »

I have been thinking on this idea lately and trying to build a tool to filter out the crap. What I have found is operators help, but the only things I have found to work are EDU sites, pre-2010 operator, and intext: welcome to my site. Beyond that, nothing seems to work to find complex content. I also thought about maybe making a tool to filter out content from the top million sites or so, but for now I am going to just use operators.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by _Tev »

Lordarminius wrote: post #317
8draco8 wrote: post #267

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Once I found very nice forum about linux servers. I found it thanks to my friend saying I have to check it out. After spending some time there this forum started to showing up on first page of google every time I looked some solution for my server problem. Google is closing your in your own bubble. It will present to you websites that you already know or that are related to sites that you know.

> Google is closing you in your own bubble. It will present to you websites that you already know or that are related to sites that you know. This is a good explanation for why my friends search results are very different from mine. Google would spin this as individualization. Is there any way to get around this bubble and unearth fresh results each search ??

Have you tried incognito mode? I also recall there was option to turn off customizing search results (or something similar) in google's privacy settings.

EDIT: I did not notice any differences so I don't really know how to test it. I search highly technical stuff for work or very mundane "popular" things outside of it. Seems like I'm bad target for the customization.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by ashark »

Kiro wrote: post #361
ashark wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s the Internet equivalent of guys who go door to door selling old people driveway treatments and crappy brick façades they don’t need, at obscene markup. Preying on the least able to defend themselves. If you have any friends or relatives who aren’t “good at computers” Google tricks them for money, as a core part of their business model. And yeah, it’s bottom-feeding scum behavior any time you see it, fit for fail…

You didn't address the DDG part. I know you're an advocate.

> it’s bottom-feeding scum behavior any time you see it

So, if you see it, then...

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by NicoJuicy »

kkmx wrote: post #97
NicoJuicy wrote: post #65

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Stumbleupon ? :P

Do a lot of people actually use it? It seems like you could just as easily replace that site by simple tweets when you actually stumble upon something worthy. Which is what most people do IMO.

I use it less then before, mostly because there are a lot of old articles

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by martyvis »

martinpw wrote: post #226
Zhenya wrote: post #184

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My favorite website: http://www.otherhand.org/ And my favorite article on it: http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hun... (No association)

That article was a fascinating read. Thank you.

Wow, I just read that search story as well - fascinating!

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by mdhughes »

As the former perpetrator of several hand-coded sites and blogs full of text organized by 52-card-pickup principles, going back to '80s BBS's, online services, USENET, and then Gopher and WWW on a University shared network…

Switching to Wordpress (obLink: https://mdhughes.tech/ ) and slowly reposting the stuff I want visible in an organized, searchable format with a consistent style and a nice CMS is the best possible improvement.

My latest change is a "Starred posts" category, so I can surface the longer, more thought-out pieces and still have ephemeral content like semi-daily music links and status updates.

Manton Reece's http://micro.blog/ is putting Twitter-like interaction under a blog framework, hosted on m.b or on your own site.

Discovery of these things is still hard, and Google's ad-searching site unsurprisingly only surfaces ads, but http://duck.go and social media (like HN) can point you at content you want to see. [ed: sp]

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by HelloNurse »

boomlinde wrote: post #307
fiala__ wrote: post #38

> Most websites were written with html, so they were all unique. Every single website on the internet always was, is and will be HTML (with various kinds of XML/SVG markup sometimes). People just gradually realised proper and standardised web design makes the Web better for everyone, by making it more usable and accessible. I don't see why I should feel nostalgia for an Internet plagued by ` `s, poorly-laid out flash…

> People just gradually realised proper and standardised web design makes the Web better for everyone, by making it more usable and accessible. Then gradually forgot about it? These days we have our WingDings (FontAwesome), popups ("please subscribe to our newsletter" modals), best viewed in Netscape Navigator 4 ("you are using an outdated browser"), best viewed in 800x600 ("please rotate your device"), auto-playing…

Sophisticated technology allows bigger mistakes, but the most important difference between 1998 annoyances and 2017 annoyances is malice and submission to external interests becoming standards and replacing, to a large extent, innocent carelessness and ignorance. For example, a self-hosted banner ad was an abuse of client bandwidth and an issue between webmasters and their audience, while a modern banner ad from Google is an attack on user privacy that a Google serf who wants a little money perpetrates against another Google serf who wants convenient "services" for the benefit of their common master.

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by exadeci »

dogcow wrote: post #167

Check out the search engine at http://wiby.me From their about page: Search engines like Google are indispensable, able to find answers to all of your technical questions; but along the way, the fun of web surfing was lost. In the early days of the web, pages were made primarily by hobbyists, academics, and computer savvy people about subjects they were interested in. Later on, the web became saturated with commercia…

Haha if look for google under the url it says: "a wise guy eh? ಠ_ಠ"

Re: Does anyone remember websites?

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Post by jstarfish »

princeb wrote: post #174
userbinator wrote: post #80

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Nowadays, anyone with a basic understanding of search engines can find almost anything they want within seconds. Almost anything popular and rather insipid, yes. Try to find more detailed information on very specific topics, however, and you'll discover that search engines like Google have been optimising more and more for the former content, making it harder to find the latter. I don't think that's a good thing at a…

does anyone remember web rings? i remember web rings. i remember a full circle of sites providing 99% of the same content because it was easier to keep a website updated reusing the same popular content. and since the webring is the #1 source of popular content, it becomes a death torus into total homogeneity.

They still exist, they're just not called that anymore. The modern term for them is PBNs (private blog networks) and they fulfill the same purpose.
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