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Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by xenihn »

jayd16 wrote: post #358
tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

So how many decades are we going to hear about how bad it is that Google knows what kind of toothpaste I like and how important privacy is before we actually see a real world benefit? Can someone point to any situation in the past where the conclusion was "good thing the ads were less targeting to my interests!"

>Can someone point to any situation in the past where the conclusion was "good thing the ads were less targeting to my interests!"

You should be thinking more about the future.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by Crespyl »

fishywang wrote: post #325
tomp wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC the idea is that (1) it allows third-party cookies of the websites you actually use (like Facebook so FB integration works), and (2) it allows cookies on new websites for the first day or so, and then it starts blocking them. More info: https://webkit.org/blog/7675/intelligent-tracking-prevention...

But "FB integration" also tracks you?

There's presumably enough users who actually want that behavior from FB, but not from other sites.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by ksk »

kartickv wrote: post #264
gruturo wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True for Apple, not for Microsoft. Windows 10 is stuffed with tracking and telemetry and puts ads in front of you (screen saver, start menu, etc). They are absolutely NOT famous for respecting your privacy or wishes.

Does it collect personally-identifiable Information? Suppose, for sake of discussion, they collect something inoocuous, like whether you prefer to maximise windows. Say a single bit of information. True or false. Would you still be opposed to the telemetry? I’m trying to understand if the objection is about specific data being collected, or to the idea at all.

The problem is _not_ collecting telemetry on users is a business disadvantage, in todays world. Whether you're a webapp or an OS.

I would be willing to send MS that information, but only as an opt-in.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by ksk »

jrcii wrote: post #177
Delmania wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you can turn those ads off, right?

Why should you have to?

The default exists because not everyone has the same reaction to the telemetry as you. For those who do, they have some means of bypassing that (for now).

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by tapanjk »

tomp wrote: post #103

> Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind. > Safari now uses machine learning to identify advertisers and others who track your online behavior, and removes the cross‑site tracking data they leave behind I'm starting to like the business model of buying the product more and more. There was a recent t…

From High Sierra page on apple.com:

> Automatically use Safari Reader for every web article that supports it, so you can view websites without ads, navigation, and other distractions.

This will come in handy since I hit the reader mode on articles as soon as the page loads and the reader option is enabled. On a side note, I like Firefox too because it has a reader mode built in. While Chrome has plugins to make this happen, having this feature as a first class citizen makes a difference. Of course Chrome has other strengths and I spend a lot of time in it, but I end up using Safari or Firefox for reading on the web.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by glitchedmob »

orangea wrote: post #349
glitchedmob wrote: post #345

So, while going through this page, I decided to check out the Safari product page, and saw this http://i.imgur.com/GXQAQVK.png . Does anyone here have any clue what they mean by having a second safari benchmark next to the Windows 10 browser benchmarks? Are they just trying to say "If our browser did work on Windows 10, this is how it would perform"?

It is saying that safari on mac is 4.3x faster than firefox on mac, and also that safari on mac is 4.2x faster than firefox on windows (at executing javascript).

Oh ok. That makes a lot more sense, thanks

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by ksk »

euyyn wrote: post #317
larkost wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google absolutely sells access to "digested" user information. While your first sentence is technically correct since they don't directly give anyone the data, it is misleading at best. Google is in the business of selling selective eyeballs to advertisers, and has been a pioneer in using user data to try and target those add impressions.

Google doesn't sell access to user information either, digested or not. I think it's misleading to say they do, "digestedly", or indirectly, or whatever.

That is true, if they sold the data, their company would probably be worthless!

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by manmal »

lloeki wrote: post #208
pazra wrote: post #67

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That'll be because Windowserver now uses Metal 2 to render UI, so if Apple's claims that it's 10x faster than Metal 1, then that's probably where the UI performance improvements have come from.

I personally own an entry-level Early 2013 Retina MacBook Pro with a i5/HD4000, and the iterative improvements they made with each major release really shine through. A machine that was previously described in every single review as underpowered on that department especially WRT Mission Control can now handle any number of windows I throw at it at a steady 60fps, including those blurs and transparencies which I previ…

Look at the iPhone for planned obsolescence.

Re: MacOS High Sierra

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Post by dawnerd »

feelix wrote: post #120

When installing a major OS update it's often worthwhile to do a clean install. As a shameless plug of some free software I made, Install Disk Creator will make you a bootable USB installer out of any USB disk you have laying around made from the macOS installer that you download from Apple.

Since when have you needed a usb installer for macOS (besides hackintosh)?
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