How the GDPR Will Disrupt Google and Facebook

Post by closeparen » Wed, Sep 06, 2017, 2:40 AM UTC

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #69

bflesch wrote: post #41

I see this as yet another tax on (European) startups who have to invest even more resources into regulatory compliance. This prohibition of freely using all available data will create great arbitrage opportunity for the shadow economy, and will have a net negative effect on innovation. I think prohibition has very bad side effects, and that MORE transparency is the way forward in politics, economy, and also society.…

As an EU citizen I don't really care about a definition of innovation that involves monetizing my data against my will or knowledge. That's not innovation it's exploitation. So I won't miss your business. There are all kinds of 'innovations' that don't involve collecting data about me, and the companies creating these kinds of products don't have to care one lick about the GDPR.

HN is most definitely not compliant. Are you happy to see it go?

Post by mdip » Wed, Sep 06, 2017, 3:03 AM UTC

dingo_bat wrote: post #345

mdip wrote: post #180

My first instinct was to be pretty happy about these laws, which surprised me quite a bit. I generally identify on the libertarian/pro-capitalist side of things and "as a general rule" subscribe to the belief that government regulations are often more problematic than problem solving[0]. So I had to take a moment to analyse why I felt this way. Here's the problem as I see it: I know all of the things that are collect…

Just want to say that any emails I receive are my property. And I can grant consent to Google allowing them to mine these emails. Once you send an email, you are ceding control to the recipient.

While it's nice to think that's actually the case, the legal situation is almost certainly more nuanced. The thing that comes to mind for me is the implicit copyright protection.

I'm not sure if that would apply to a message I sent to you, but it may, and if that's the case, it's "my property", not yours. I'd be interested to know if any case law exists on this. Considering how often the DMCA is abused, I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried a DMCA takedown claiming copyright ownership on an embarrassing e-mail sent to someone and then subsequently posted online.

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