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increased risks of nuclear war you do realize that initiating nuclear war is suicide, right? the u.s. took advantage of the only chance of actually using one because they were the only nuclear power at the time.
> you do realize that initiating nuclear war is suicide, right? Given there are plenty of suicidal humans, that's not entirely comforting.
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Why does there need to be "the best" preschool. Can't we have a society with standards? A society that gives a damn about iniquity?
I think you mean inequality...iniquity is sin...which society doesn't care much about either lol
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It's unfortunate that people can't see that junior dealing with the effects of climate change in 30, 40, 50 years could be a lot more devastating to his life than the prestige level of his preschool.
You are not seeing this from its full potential. By going to a better school kid is more likely to get better access to opportunities which then allow them to better survive any potential climate issues. So the parents are thinking rightly about this.
People here often gang up on a product if it doesn't meet their specific requirements or budget.
Could it simply be that you aren't the target market for this product?
Also, people comparing the cost of this roof with the cost of a conventional roof are being a little ingenuous. This roof has ROOF + SOLAR.
You'll have to include cost of an equivalent solar system + roof if you want to do a cost to cost comparison.
It's obviously not cheap, but if there are people - and there are plenty of people - who can afford it, why knock it down?
People are thinking way too much about how much this saves them at a personal level. I think people should instead be thinking about how we can save the existence of the entire species, and all other higher order forms of life on earth, rather than focusing on their individual tax breaks, savings, or other trivial concerns. Yes, your cash flow is rendered quite trivial if life on Earth ends. Invest in the Life Econom…
I agree with the sentiment, but I have to correct your idea that global warming is a species-ending problem. The worst-case scenario of global warming (which might be inevitable given the current CO2 levels) is a 216 foot rise in sea level [1]. This will cause mass migration and be extremely expensive and unpleasant for society as a whole, but poses little threat of ending humanity. NASA's JPL did a great lecture a f…
This is one of my pet peeves with HN. People here often gang up on a product if it doesn't meet their specific requirements or budget. Could it simply be that you aren't the target market for this product? Also, people comparing the cost of this roof with the cost of a conventional roof are being a little ingenuous. This roof has ROOF + SOLAR. You'll have to include cost of an equivalent solar system + roof if you wa…
Because that's precisely what elon did!
"“So the basic proposition will be: Would you like a roof that looks better than a normal roof, lasts twice as long, costs less and—by the way—generates electricity?” Musk said. “Why would you get anything else?” "
Note the "Costs less" part.
In case you wanted to argue about that: "Musk told the crowd that he had just returned from a meeting with his new solar engineering team. Tesla’s new solar roof product, he proclaimed, will actually cost less to manufacture and install than a traditional roof—even before savings from the power bill. "
Note very specifically: "Cost less to manufacture and install than a traditional roof - even before savings from the power bill".
People are thinking way too much about how much this saves them at a personal level. I think people should instead be thinking about how we can save the existence of the entire species, and all other higher order forms of life on earth, rather than focusing on their individual tax breaks, savings, or other trivial concerns. Yes, your cash flow is rendered quite trivial if life on Earth ends. Invest in the Life Econom…
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I agree with the sentiment, but I have to correct your idea that global warming is a species-ending problem. The worst-case scenario of global warming (which might be inevitable given the current CO2 levels) is a 216 foot rise in sea level [1]. This will cause mass migration and be extremely expensive and unpleasant for society as a whole, but poses little threat of ending humanity. NASA's JPL did a great lecture a f…
You are looking at a very small fraction of the problem. Yes higher water is not an extinction level event. But with increased CO2 there's also increasing acidification. So the plankton dies, coral dies, mollusks die (their shells erode). The food web at sea dies.... as does the food for a decent fraction of the planet. Acid rain causes more damage, food production becomes tougher... especially on the decreasing numb…
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You are looking at a very small fraction of the problem. Yes higher water is not an extinction level event. But with increased CO2 there's also increasing acidification. So the plankton dies, coral dies, mollusks die (their shells erode). The food web at sea dies.... as does the food for a decent fraction of the planet. Acid rain causes more damage, food production becomes tougher... especially on the decreasing numb…
Also, don't discount the rising level of violent conflicts that will ensue for shrinking resources.
Not sure why all the negative energy. They are going after the portion of the market that would replace their roof with a high end material, and are interested in solar. If you are a home owner in this situation, you could consider investing into your home. The roof will pay dividends over the next 30 years, and is attractive and durable. I think it will do extremely well. Perhaps the best opportunity is in new const…
yeah there is little economic incentive for anyone outside of California will to retrofit these onto an existing house. Take Texas for example a large house in Dallas is $500k I used the provided calculator on the Tesla site and the roof install will cost $211k! that is not justifiable on a house this expensive.