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Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by BogusIKnow »

gabemart wrote: post #302
BogusIKnow wrote: post #272

Main problem still is Google: They consider HTTPS and HTTP links the same. When switching a site to HTTPS you lose all your incoming links. Redirects only transfer a small amount of juice. You're toast. We tried migrating several times to HTTPS only, every time got a huge penalty from Google. So Google is the main driver for HTTP websites.

> They consider HTTPS and HTTP links the same. When switching a site to HTTPS you lose all your incoming links. Do you mean that they don't consider HTTPS and HTTP the same? Otherwise, I don't understand your point here.

You're right.

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by [deleted] »

byuu wrote: post #241
mholt wrote: post #96

In the hopes that it will help spread adoption of HTTPS, I wrote a web server that serves your sites over HTTPS by default, using Let's Encrypt: https://caddyserver.com - It also redirects HTTP -> HTTPS.[1] There's a lot of misinformation out there about certificates and HTTPS, but don't let it stop you from encrypting your site. Regardless of Google's move, there is no excuse for any site not to be served encrypted…

> Regardless of Google's move, there is no excuse for any site not to be served encrypted anymore. Honest question: are you willing to indemnify your users when the next Heartbleed-like attack comes out for the underlying SSL library you are using in your product? If you are willing to do that, and will offer me a no-cost wildcard domain certificate, I will switch to your product and start using HTTPS.

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Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by psykovsky »

airswimmer wrote: post #350
magicalist wrote: post #121

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> First results for searching 'calendar': http://i.imgur.com/l3A5Wlh.png Well in your screenshot it seems like you scrolled down on the "calendar" search results. I get some other random thing ahead of Google Calendar, in incognito or not. It is really annoying (I too hate those things, I would have installed the app if I wanted the app), but the click through thing only happens once in my testing. Are you clearing y…

How about using a software to get rid of google ads? I can erase google ads from DNS level. Users can never reach any google ad at all. What you think?

Adaway was already invented ;)

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by CM30 »

So what would this mean for web development agencies and the likes, who've made hundreds of thousands of websites (most without SSL) and would now be forced to convert them all to use https?

How many clients would be willing to pay to cover some of the time wasted doing that?

And how about the potential SEO impact? I mean, Google says switching to https shouldn't affect things, but I've seen tons of sites lose rankings after a change.

Okay, using https is a good thing and all, but the inconvenience caused by having to make this change could be massive.

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Post by schoen »

pluma wrote: post #316
schoen wrote: post #286

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Apparently Iraq, Iran, Yemen, the Congo, Lebanon, and Chad are masculine in German: https://german.yabla.com/lessons.php?lesson_id=409

Actually I can't think of many cases where German would use pronouns with countries. The reason these are masculine is because they are typically referred to using a definitive pronoun (literally "the Iraq", "the Iran", etc). It's more common with names of regions -- which may indicate that these countries used to be mere geographical regions (rather than sovereign nations) when the names entered the German language.…

When you use pronouns for anaphora, would you use "es" for all countries, or is it plausible to imagine "er" or "sie", as with common nouns?

For example: Vor drei Monaten waren meine Mutter und ich in der Schweiz; wir haben _____ wirklich schön gefunden.

Would you accept "sie" here as a reference to Switzerland (because it was referred to as "die Schweiz"), or "es", or both? My intution is "es", but I'm not not a native speaker and non-native German speakers notoriously over-apply "es" to inanimate things.

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by rdl »

ryanlol wrote: post #219
icebraining wrote: post #192

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If someone impersonates your server, it can then pass the authentication request to the original, and gain full MITM without your knowledge. Yes, even if you use public key auth.

I will personally pay you the sum of 500 Bitcoins if you can demonstrate a realistic active MitM attack on OpenSSH that allows an active network level attacker to "pass the authentication request to the original" and gain full MitM. Conditions: Public key authentication must be used for authentication. If it's possible to perform the attack passively(e.g on pcaps), it doesn't qualify. This attack has to affect setups…

You're exempting the obvious "MITM on initial connection" attack, right?

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by pluma »

schoen wrote: post #365
pluma wrote: post #316

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Actually I can't think of many cases where German would use pronouns with countries. The reason these are masculine is because they are typically referred to using a definitive pronoun (literally "the Iraq", "the Iran", etc). It's more common with names of regions -- which may indicate that these countries used to be mere geographical regions (rather than sovereign nations) when the names entered the German language.…

When you use pronouns for anaphora, would you use "es" for all countries, or is it plausible to imagine "er" or "sie", as with common nouns? For example: Vor drei Monaten waren meine Mutter und ich in der Schweiz; wir haben _____ wirklich schön gefunden. Would you accept "sie" here as a reference to Switzerland (because it was referred to as "die Schweiz"), or "es", or both? My intution is "es", but I'm not not a nat…

I'd use "es" because it refers to the experience of being in Switzerland rather than the country itself.

But Switzerland is another example of a country that is typically used with an article. Consider the sentence "Ich fahre nach ____" with a country name. It doesn't work for countries like Switzerland ("nach Schweiz" sounds wrong, you'd instead say "in die Schweiz" -- same as "nach Kongo" vs "in den Kongo").

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by schoen »

pluma wrote: post #367
schoen wrote: post #365

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When you use pronouns for anaphora, would you use "es" for all countries, or is it plausible to imagine "er" or "sie", as with common nouns? For example: Vor drei Monaten waren meine Mutter und ich in der Schweiz; wir haben _____ wirklich schön gefunden. Would you accept "sie" here as a reference to Switzerland (because it was referred to as "die Schweiz"), or "es", or both? My intution is "es", but I'm not not a nat…

I'd use "es" because it refers to the experience of being in Switzerland rather than the country itself. But Switzerland is another example of a country that is typically used with an article. Consider the sentence "Ich fahre nach ____" with a country name. It doesn't work for countries like Switzerland ("nach Schweiz" sounds wrong, you'd instead say "in die Schweiz" -- same as "nach Kongo" vs "in den Kongo").

Thanks! Can we force the sentence to be about the country itself?

- Was meinen Sie über die Schweiz?

- ____ ist schön. / Ich finde ____ schön.

Re: Google Will Soon Shame All Websites That Are Unencrypted

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Post by windsurfer »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #268
windsurfer wrote: post #185

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Did you read the page I linked to? My referer was https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=What%20Is%20My%2...

Uh, the referrer is the page you came from. So if he opened the page on HN, then he wouldn't get the Google referrer, he'd get a page off HN.

If you read the page I linked to, it instructs you to search to try it out for yourself to see that search results are not stripped from the referrer.
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