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The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by azinman2 »

jamesjyu wrote: post #171
paragpatelone wrote: post #77

"His self-funded experiment could end with Hotz humbly going back to knock on Google’s door for a job." The biggest thing here IMO is this is self-funded. Any startup trying to do what he is doing in this environment would have raised $50 Million, hired 100's of engineers from top notch schools, become accepted in YC, and have Marc Andreessen, Paul Graham, Sam Altman and all singing their praises. Kudos to him for be…

And yes, that happened http://www.getcruise.com/

Oi. This is not the kind of thing I want kickstarted.

I'd prefer my autonomous cars to have gone through insane amounts of testing, regulation, etc. This is just too new of a field, and the amount of edge cases you have to handle is practically infinite.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by steego »

ryandrake wrote: post #200
bcohn91 wrote: post #46

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Why is the first comment on HN minimizing this truly impressive project? Of course it's not perfect, he's ONE person.

Yes, It's one person. WE GET IT. This article is a hero worship piece about a guy rather than a story about the technology. It's like how you can't find an article about Theranos that isn't actually just a photo-shoot/celebrity worship article about its founder.

Early investors love genius superheros because lesser investors are willing to pay a premium to invest with companies with a superhero and a story.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by willchronic »

ixtli wrote: post #351
kaizendc wrote: post #343

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Take some time to watch his YouTube video explaining the iPhone hack. He starts the video by giving credit to other people involved in the project.

Nice. Can you link me? I was involved in the project :)

what was your osx86 handle? I was also involved in the early times but don't recognize your name.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by hokkos »

samlittlewood wrote: post #335

Interesting to see an nvidia shield box on his shelves [0] - I've been playing with one, and the Tegra X1 SoC in there is an absolute beast. Nvidia are pushing this chip for automotive, supported by freely available learning and vision toolkits. I'd not be surprised to see some interest and support from nvidia on this (if not, then they should REALLY look into it). [0] http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-george-ho…

The NVidia Jetson TX1 platform is indeed very interesting, it has the VisionWorks API with lot of CUDA accelerated primitive useful for autonomous driving : SLAM, Optical Flow, ... https://developer.nvidia.com/embedded/visionworks

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by ixtli »

willchronic wrote: post #363
ixtli wrote: post #351

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Nice. Can you link me? I was involved in the project :)

what was your osx86 handle? I was also involved in the early times but don't recognize your name.

It was ixtli. I wrote iPHUC and still own the repo, i think: https://code.google.com/p/iphuc/source/browse/trunk/AUTHORS

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by anchpop »

ck2 wrote: post #116

I really liked Hotz until he went to work for the dark side (google's android security) and decided to make smartphones harder to root instead of easier.

I dunno, it's still pretty easy. I think if google really wanted to they could make it quite a bit harder. And fixing exploits that give apps root access would prevent malicious apps from abusing it, no?

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by cafebeen »

smokeyj wrote: post #354
cafebeen wrote: post #259

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I think it's a fair comment given his quote "I know everything there is to know" and the headline of the article claiming he's "building a self-driving car by himself". I've always thought the "hacker" community attributed value to sharing and building off other's work, but maybe times have changed.

Have you ever spoken to a journalist? It's their job to sell clicks with charged headlines and over-blown quotes. If they followed you for a day I promise they'd generate some equally stupid quotes.

Yes, that kind of journalism exists, but does it have a place here?

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by nathan_f77 »

thedz wrote: post #4

> “I understand the state-of-the-art papers,” he says. “The math is simple. For the first time in my life, I’m like, ‘I know everything there is to know.’ ” Yep, he's still in his twenties.

He may well know everything there is to know today, but there's bound to plenty more breakthroughs in AI research. It would be like Newton saying "I know everything there is to know about physics today".

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by oldmanjay »

webmasterraj wrote: post #297
bcohn91 wrote: post #46

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Why is the first comment on HN minimizing this truly impressive project? Of course it's not perfect, he's ONE person.

One person can build something that starts a revolution. See Woz/Apple. The real issue here is that self-driving cars are probably the wrong place for that to happen in AI. At best, a solo project creates a crappy prototype where there was no product before (again, see Woz/Apple). The expectation for driverless cars is too high – they need to be 100% good, because your life is on the line, not 80% good. What's the AI…

I don't follow why AI vehicles need to be 100% good. Plain old human-driven vehicles sure aren't and we accept their utility as being worth the trade.
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