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Re: The adblocking revolution is months away

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Post by kartickvad » Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 8:50 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #65

onion2k wrote: post #49

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Having apps locks you in to the ecosystem. If you're installing one app from the app store you're very likely to install others.

Buying an iPhone locks you into the ecosystem. There can't be many people who own one who've never installed any apps from the app store.

There may be some switching cost, but not much, depending on: - whether the apps are free - whether the same or similar apps are available on Android - whether those apps are critical to you in day to day use

Re: The adblocking revolution is months away

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Post by fuzzy76 » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 10:44 AM UTC

ethbro wrote: post #249

Steko wrote: post #170

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Come on, Apple didn't want DRM, labels insisted on it. https://web.archive.org/web/20080107121341/http://www.apple....

>> Come on, Apple didn't want DRM, labels insisted on it. https://web.archive.org/web/20080107121341/http://www.apple.... > The third alternative is to abolish DRMs entirely. Imagine a world where every online store sells DRM-free music encoded in open licensable formats. In such a world, any player can play music purchased from any store, and any store can sell music which is playable on all players. This is clearly…

So iTunes sales slowed down when music streaming started to get traction. Apple did away with DRM when the majority of the record companies agreed to. I don't doubt for a second that Universal might have sold music without DRM elsewhere, why denying iTunes the same. The record industry were always afraid of the monopoly situation iTunes was becoming.

Re: The adblocking revolution is months away

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Post by fuzzy76 » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 10:46 AM UTC

vilmosi wrote: post #5

The overall article is of good quality but it reeks of Apple bias I personally find distasteful. >>> User experience is what Apple puts above pretty much everything else, and they’ve decided that they don’t like it the experience available through the ad-supported web, and so they’re going to do something about it. The reason Apple does this is to push content creators away from the Web and into native apps. Apple ge…

Apple was clear when announcing this that their goal was NOT to block ads. It was to block stuff that a) tracked you and b) caused your surfing to slow down. This is what they're aiming for.

Re: The adblocking revolution is months away

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Post by fuzzy76 » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 10:48 AM UTC

danielweber wrote: post #191

rayiner wrote: post #56

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It can be both. If people find the ad supported web unpleasant, doing the right thing for the user experience is also something that benefits their bottom line.

If people incorrectly assume that the alternative to "free with ads" is "free with no ads" then we will have a market failure.

Luckily, all market research shows that iOS users buy more apps and content.

Re: The adblocking revolution is months away

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Post by fuzzy76 » Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 10:52 AM UTC

dhimes wrote: post #186

kazinator wrote: post #132

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You are spot on. Apple's obvious point of view is this: random websites not affiliated with Apple are using our devices to advertize to the user. That must be stopped! We own the device, after all, and if the user is going to be advertized to, we give the permission for that and want a cut. Plus the wild and wooly ads are obnoxious. We can decide what is acceptable to our users and how it is presented, for a better (…

Imagine LG doing something like this with their TVs...

Adblocking? I'd buy it in a heartbeat!