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Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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My first job title was "webmaster." Which meant dev-ops-designer-product-guy.

True, true - there was no web dev/web designer, no front end/back end... webmaster had to be a *nix admin, coder, HTML, graphic designer & security guy all rolled into one.

So true. Sometimes I tell the new kids about this in terms of the differences between then and now: "No, you don't understand, I don't know all this shit because I'm awesome, I know all this because getting a computer working and online in the late 80s/early 90s required knowing just about everything. Everything. Right down to when you needed to park the fucking hard drive." It was all one big roll.

I know the long-beards would scoff at that a bit but, you know, it is what it is. Even in the early 90s you had to know almost all facets of things just to get it working.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Fixed widths and heights....it is amazing that [as it seems] no one in the entire w3c or building the browsers know people that write applications for multiple languages, different directional settings (right-to-left vs left-to-right), and even verticalization (replacing terms within the product depending on the customer). Things that are trivial in native applications back in the early 90s still can't be done easily…

Given that HTML was never designed to be an application development language is that surprising ?. Talk about banging a square peg into a round hole!!!

Javascript was never intended for building large applications, but with the JIT-improvements of the last years, it works.

CSS is really botched and holding us back at this point. Fortunately it is slowly improving (eg. * { box-sizing: border-box } and the flex-box), but still...

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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No colored scrollbars? Or was this past 2000?

at least back then people didn't use javascript for styling a scrollbar...

No, but they first used Java applets and then Flash, just to re-implement the native scrollbars with a lesser version. The horror...

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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I remember using images that looked almost identical to in place of an actual tag. Plus the million variations (you didn't have a real site until you have a image that matched your theme). I remember the 1x1 transparent pixel with great affection---it was the output of my first significant CGI script (in Perl, of course) that I used as a site counter. Winsock! Fuck yeah! I remember when a web page and a gopher site l…

So many memories on this list. Trumpet Winsock on Windows 3.11, dialing into a small mom and pop ISP in my town in Tennessee (I think they were pretty much all mom and pops back then). Then fire up Netscape and surf as well as you could at 2400 baud. Which actually worked pretty well because everything was slow and you just kind of expected it. Or learning cool HTML tricks by looking at the source, then practicing it…

zMUD. :)
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