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U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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I'm surprised that I, as a non-US citizen living in the Netherlands, could sign that.

Watching Hulu.com videos should clearly be US-only, while a petition website targeted at US citizen is for everybody!

Well, it's really very logical. After all, we non-US folk are the ones being spied on as well. Or mostly, even.

It's only fair that we have a say in the politics of the US, as their politicians seem to find it fair to meddle in ours.

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Black projects are not listed in a public budget. The premise of it being tax money is also suspect. The US government does not get all of the money from taxes despite the popular notion. I agree with your gist however; A modern day human sacrifice.

Could you list some of the other sources of government funding? The only one I can think of is the alleged CIA drug trafficking scandals from decades past.

Illegal arms trafficking, which was somewhat more thoroughly proven than the CIA making a profit from its illegal drug trafficking. Its involvement, however, was pretty cut-and-dried, and goes far beyond being an "alleged scandal".

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So now is the time to identify the federal prosecutors who filed this and petition the government to have them fired. For what, doing their jobs? Protest by all means, but demanding that prosecutors be fired for executing the law is just ridiculous.

I don't think it is all that ridiculous. Prosecutors have tremendous amounts of discretion regarding who they prosecute and what for. They aren't just "doing their jobs" they are explicitly targeting Snowden. The fact that it is their legal prerogative to do so does not necessarily make it ethically correct.

I would love to see some examples of people who have engaged in similar practices that we didn't bother to prosecute. Like people complaining about 'Obama's war on Leakers,' these assertions of prosecutorial vindictiveness are meaningless without context.

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...we could enshrine it in our constitution!

And then invent distributed email cryptography systems to keep them from spying on us! And buy that sweet new Nirvana album!

Nirvana? Meh. They just ripped off the Pixies.

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These are political charges, and as the governed we should stand up to the people who are supposed to be working for us and demand that they be dropped. Immediately. Did or did not Edward Snowden leak classified material to the press? Does or does not the government have a duty to attempt to prosecute him? You make it sound like he didn't actually break any laws, when he actually did break a couple. Whether the charg…

Why such obsession about the law? Some laws are good, and that's good that they are enforced. Some laws are bad, and it is bad that they are enforced. The whole concept of "legality" is (sadly) appropriated by governments. The government invents the rules for itself and other organizations and individuums. They ca invent whatever rules they like. Gulag was perfectly legal. Nazi concentration camps were perfectly lega…

> It is stupid to assume that one's actions are bad just because they are against the law.

Yeah, it is. But the law is there and we still have to follow it until we can change it. Part of what makes people that conscientiously break the law for personal beliefs heroes (insert civil rights activist of choice here) is that they do so knowing that they are going against the law and willingly face that.

I respect a person who will take a stand and face the consequences of their actions.

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If they didn't give Robert Hanssen the death penalty, I highly doubt Snowden is going to get it

They also didn't sentence John Walker to death, and he arguably puts Snowden and Manning combined into the minor leagues.

Presumably this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker

(There's a lot of John Walkers on Wikipedia.)

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Nothing to see here. Govt need to create a public process with a severe penalty in order not to create a precedent.

The same type of prosecution as in Khodorkovsky or Pussy Riot cases in Russia - to clearly signal to others - don't do it again, so govt will do everything that is possible.

Sometimes I think that being a major in, say, English literature isn't that useless as it seems to be.))

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