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This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Nah, the point is that he doesn't bring any new knowledge to the table. Even if we assume that most people are lazy idiots, one can hardly think that no one has yet collected the available scientific knowledge about nutrition and tried to produce a replacement drink from that. Because that's what he does. No one says it's not possible, but when he says he read extensive about the subject he's either lying or ignoring the fact, that there is almost not certainty about what the body needs in which quantity, with great effort, because no reputable source claims otherwise.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

#352

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No, you can't. This is quack science.

Well, I could link you to a bunch of studies that say otherwise, but then you would tell me all the reasons that those studies are bogus, and then show me a bunch of studies that show there is no connection (probably sponsored by those peddling chemotherapy et al.), so I guess we'll just avoid the rathole and stay convinced of our own opinions :)

Link the (peer-reviewed) articles, rather than guessing peoples responses to the hypothetical articles.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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> You place a burden of evidence on him that you yourself in this very post violated on a number of occasions. You CANNOT call his diet poisonous simply because you disagree with it. Nutrition science is in its infancy. It's clear that the complexity of the interaction of food as it is digested and interacting with our organism has barely had the surface scratched. Also, if you look at the rise of processed foods alo…

>Also, if you look at the rise of processed foods along with obesity, diabetes, and other health problems that have increased over the past century it's clear that there are some serious problems, and they haven't been explained conclusively by this or that macro-nutrient trend. >So given the state of the evidence, a vague evolutionary assertion that whole foods are generally healthier than a distilled diet of comple…

I don't think you can't really establish a correlation between animal and human diet, and how a specific "balanced" diet might affect them. The difference in diet and life span are two important factors that might affect any study.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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No, you can't. This is quack science.

Well, I could link you to a bunch of studies that say otherwise, but then you would tell me all the reasons that those studies are bogus, and then show me a bunch of studies that show there is no connection (probably sponsored by those peddling chemotherapy et al.), so I guess we'll just avoid the rathole and stay convinced of our own opinions :)

Don't worry, I've got your back; I'll do it for you, dougk16.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=piperlongumine+canc...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=bromelain+cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=frankincense+cancer

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

#355

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No, you can't. This is quack science.

Well, I could link you to a bunch of studies that say otherwise, but then you would tell me all the reasons that those studies are bogus, and then show me a bunch of studies that show there is no connection (probably sponsored by those peddling chemotherapy et al.), so I guess we'll just avoid the rathole and stay convinced of our own opinions :)

Link me to some peer-reviewed studies that show that cancer can be cured with only dietary changes.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Bricklin's background in business was minimal, but he created a product that revolutionized business processes more than thousands of acclaimed gurus . Musk absorbed a few books on rocketry (see my related comment) and constructed an accurate theoretical model before hiring anyone.

Some people are geniuses (or close enough). Other people? Not so much. This guy pretty much falls into the not so much category. He forgot to include iron! Did Musk forget to include $ROCKETRY_COMPONENT? I'm glad that there are people willing to do interesting new stuff. I'm glad that some of these people are happy to experiment on themselves. I'm even glad if some of these people turn out to be idiots. I get a bit u…

Show me anyplace in any of his blog posts where he says anything like "You need to try this!".

He does invite people who would like to try it to contact him. That's far from a hard sell. He also says things like "At this point I think scepticism is completely reasonable."

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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post #276

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> You place a burden of evidence on him that you yourself in this very post violated on a number of occasions. You CANNOT call his diet poisonous simply because you disagree with it. Nutrition science is in its infancy. It's clear that the complexity of the interaction of food as it is digested and interacting with our organism has barely had the surface scratched. Also, if you look at the rise of processed foods alo…

It sounds like the drink is made from natural sources, so it probably contains compounds that he isn't aware of. The risk (and the value of the experimental results) would probably be higher if he had found a way to isolate the compounds in the drink so he could enumerate the exact chemical composition. If there is a risk, it is that his diet is potentially more homogenous than a typical diet, and doesn't include any…

But he said he does eat out occasionally.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

#359
This diet already exists. It is called by many names: elemental diet, space diet, astronaut diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1410941/pdf/gut0...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental_diet

Some hospitals may serve this to very ill patients. It has been the subject of much study. It is customized based on the needs of an individual. Most can't stand the taste. It generally works well in the short term, although I am not aware of any long term studies that have been done.

I too am interested in this. Have they determined that animals live longer or shorter lives on this diet? It could be rather easy to determine this: considering the relatively short life span of earthworms or fruit flies.

Anyone who is interested in this topic: email me at: nickelnerve@gmail.com

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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> a 24-year-old software engineer > ... > Soylent contains all of the nutritive components of a balanced diet What utter bollocks. We're (as in, scientists studying nutrition and how utterly wrong food industry has gotten that in the 20th and early 21st century) finally starting to get our collective heads around the benefits of whole foods vs. highly processed foods, and just how badly our bodies deal with the latte…

I don't understand this. Let's say you took all the components of a healthy diet, then blended them together into a drink like this and consumed it. How would that be any different from eating the components separately? Your intestines don't know or care that a blender got to the food first. Maybe this particular example is missing something, I don't know. But you seem opposed to the very concept , which makes no sen…

Google "bioavailability"
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