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Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by kryogen1c »

dvt wrote: post #307
stymaar wrote: post #86

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This. When the US government decides to label you “terrorist organization”, it means that you are now targeted by the most potent state actor on earth, which will go as far as blowing up weddings in your neighborhood to stop you. So unless you're willing to become a literal terrorist organization and die with a bunch of your friends in an uphill battle (not technically unwinnable, but at least lopsided and the casual…

> So unless you're willing to become a literal terrorist organization and die with a bunch of your friends in an uphill battle (not technically unwinnable, but at least lopsided and the casualties will be tremendous), the only option is to cave. Honestly, the internet has made folks so lazy. It's very ironic that the most "revolutionary" act taken recently (January 6) was actually done by the far-right. Yeah: if you…

> you need to actually get out of the basement, grab a gun, and storm the Capitol.

This is not what happened on J6, and is specifically why it was not an insurrection.

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by einpoklum »

graemep wrote: post #251
toomuchtodo wrote: post #43

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Which is why efforts by China to stand up independent cross border payment rails are important. You have to cut the US out of any ability to control activities outside of their boundaries. China, Egypt to do away with the use of the US dollar - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49555056 - September 2026 China nears launch of mBridge as alternative to Swift - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48636931 - June 202…

So the rest of the world has the option of relying on China instead? How is that better?

It can be better, if the alternative mechanism is designed with safeguards against hijacking by a single state. Naturally, the threat of sanctions can always bully banks or states into acting one way or another, but at least it would not be through the cutting off of money transfers between willing parties.

Of course, that's an _if_, not something to just take for granted.

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Post by dvdkon »

ranyume wrote: post #334
dvdkon wrote: post #204

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I don't remember any LGBTQI+ wars here in the Czech Republic, so "blood free" actually seems like a good characterisation. Sometimes the system just works. See also the Velvet Revolution for a pretty large shift away from totalitarianism without any deaths.

I don't remember any LGBTQI+ wars inside my house either, but they're respected here. That's strange isn't it?

It is strange. I certainly wouldn't think your house, having been isolated from western society over decades by a communist regime and heavily-patrolled borders, would respond to social activism in foreign countries. But maybe there's just some secret house mycelium for sharing progressive ideas that I don't know about.

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Post by idiotsecant »

dvt wrote: post #307
stymaar wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. When the US government decides to label you “terrorist organization”, it means that you are now targeted by the most potent state actor on earth, which will go as far as blowing up weddings in your neighborhood to stop you. So unless you're willing to become a literal terrorist organization and die with a bunch of your friends in an uphill battle (not technically unwinnable, but at least lopsided and the casual…

> So unless you're willing to become a literal terrorist organization and die with a bunch of your friends in an uphill battle (not technically unwinnable, but at least lopsided and the casualties will be tremendous), the only option is to cave. Honestly, the internet has made folks so lazy. It's very ironic that the most "revolutionary" act taken recently (January 6) was actually done by the far-right. Yeah: if you…

"I broke everything like a child and now everything is worse" is not a revolution. It's being a useful idiot

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Post by runarberg »

jpoesen wrote: post #304
stanleykm wrote: post #201

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It sounds like that until you realize that the baseline behavior is for countries that are not in NATO to be subservient to NATO. So, as you can see, it is the governments and populations that are coercing and intimidating themselves and NATO is helpfully returning them to normalcy.

Oh sweet summer child, you would be absolutely correct were it not for your unfortunate confounding of NATO with the USA.

I am biased here, as somebody who grew up next to an American military base in Iceland and had a pro-communist upbringing and learned to hate NATO (as well as the American imperialist agenda as a whole) from an early age.

I don‘t see a difference. I was told this when I was a child, and as I’ve grown up and seen more of the world (including by immigrating to the USA) I am more convinced then ever. In my eyes, there is no meaningful difference between USA and NATO.

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Post by 1matin »

stymaar wrote: post #86
unfocso wrote: post #12

Really sad, and also a testament of the fact that as much as we think we try to be indipendent, eventually once somebody starts putting enough pressure on the people around you (and you turn from "a neutral customer" to "a liability") the path to isolation is very short.

This. When the US government decides to label you “terrorist organization”, it means that you are now targeted by the most potent state actor on earth, which will go as far as blowing up weddings in your neighborhood to stop you. So unless you're willing to become a literal terrorist organization and die with a bunch of your friends in an uphill battle (not technically unwinnable, but at least lopsided and the casual…

As a person living in the place you're mentioning, I have to confidently state that you've been brainwashed

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Post by politician »

vrganj wrote: post #344
politician wrote: post #343

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Do you think your country is the only one that thought of free speech? Your particular implementation is irrelevant, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by giving us a lecture on how some foreign country justifies their self-perception. That being said, it is somewhat humorous how you're confirming the stereotypes that apparently even that needs guns and violence over there somehow?

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Post by ranyume »

dvdkon wrote: post #353
ranyume wrote: post #334

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I don't remember any LGBTQI+ wars inside my house either, but they're respected here. That's strange isn't it?

It is strange. I certainly wouldn't think your house, having been isolated from western society over decades by a communist regime and heavily-patrolled borders, would respond to social activism in foreign countries. But maybe there's just some secret house mycelium for sharing progressive ideas that I don't know about.

It's very clear you do not have a grasp of Marxism or Communism. You'd know that the worker class is only one.

Re: A/I shuts down

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Post by andai »

mjfs wrote: post #337
andai wrote: post #315

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> The unseriousness you treat something incredibly serious with has become an endemic problem in our society Testosterone down 50% since 1970. Childishness up slightly more than that.

I'm sure those two stats are definitely related. What a childish thing to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puer_aeternus
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