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Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by dyauspitr »

speedstyle wrote: post #341
dyauspitr wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no such thing as children’s devices. Everyone uses the same smartphones. Optional on device restrictions don’t matter as long as your peer group is on the platform, kids will not stop using it. People are not asking for biometric scanning, but I believe the vast majority would be OK with some sort of ID based authentication system. Now there are ways we can do that in a decentralized way where neither of the…

Are you saying parents would choose not to block it, or children would get around it? Like you say people want to block it, but currently it's very hard while allowing access to Google and other resources, or it's easy to get around. Why does this require server verification? For example, all devices could require your ZKP ID attestation to be usable unfiltered. Then the relevant apps/sites would be equally inaccessi…

The on the ground reality is that now most social interactions at schools and the content for those interactions happen on social media and apps/private chat rooms. If you don’t have a smartphone or not using those platforms, you’re just left out. There’s going to be serious social cohesion issues for the kids that don’t have access to them. It’s also going to cause continuous pressure throughout your schooling years to circumvent whatever restrictions your parents are putting on and to be in constant conflict with them because of that pressure. That’s life altering stuff.

ZKP ID would work but that’s essentially deanonymization because you have to provide your ID to someone though no one has total information. Also just checking for its absence doesn’t work because that’s opt in and less than 5% of parents would do it. Every individual, irrespective of age would have to have a valid one.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by ElProlactin »

b112 wrote: post #344
ElProlactin wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yet, compared to every military in the past, compared to the fact that war was seen as a normal thing in the past, compared to how it used to be standard to rape and pillage in the past, and that was just expected and fine and normal, current modern militaries of the West are exceptionally disciplined, and their use by politicians doubly so. Are you serious? During the Vietnam War era, the US dropped over 7.5 m…

OK. Now compare the entire world's militaries, over the last 50 years, worst-for-worst act. Or since you mentioned WWII, what's the worst done by armies during that time? Hmm? After all, you're trying to find and hold up the worst the US has done, right? So to compare, you need to find the worst in modern militaries. In militaries of all time. That was what I discussed, after all. I was quite clear. Compare to all of…

> But if you think the US military is evil, then you have never seen evil. Ever.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2006/08/nachtwey_phot...

It takes a lot to get me to want to say something very nasty to a person but you, sir, would deserve it.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by stuaxo »

tangotaylor wrote: post #223

> A joint statement by Buffy Wicks, the lead author of AB 2273, Jordan Cunningham, another AB 2273 author, and 5Rights Foundation states, “The Bill is practicable and realistic, drawing as it does on the UK’s Age Appropriate Design Code (AADC).” How is Buffy Wicks so damn gullible with tech legislation? Her AB 1043 and AB 1856 (Digital Age Assurance Act), intended to protect children online and regulate Big Tech (but…

We have dark money in the UK too and linked to the same orgs it just arrives via different channels.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by freakynit »

I love such cases... because "almost" all of them have hidden political agendas... so, as usual, I let my investigative agent run over this and prepare me detailed connections graph between prominent personnel, orgs, funding, and political connections...

https://5rights.stupidlabs.lol/

Disclaimer: this project of mine is still in development, and not quote 100% accurate.. so, take it with a bit of salt.. do your own research...

Also, this is running on a cheap server... please don't hammer it..

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by OgsyedIE »

tangotaylor wrote: post #223

> A joint statement by Buffy Wicks, the lead author of AB 2273, Jordan Cunningham, another AB 2273 author, and 5Rights Foundation states, “The Bill is practicable and realistic, drawing as it does on the UK’s Age Appropriate Design Code (AADC).” How is Buffy Wicks so damn gullible with tech legislation? Her AB 1043 and AB 1856 (Digital Age Assurance Act), intended to protect children online and regulate Big Tech (but…

Why assume that the appearance of gullibility isn't the act of pretending to be gullible for gain?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by ang_cire »

ElProlactin wrote: post #290
CookieCrisp wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the consequences of the government not abusing it isn’t devastating.

By that logic, countries like the US, UK, France, etc. shouldn't be allowed to have a standing military.

Nearly there...

Now ask yourself which government is currently bombing another country over one man's ego (or due to blackmail by an "ally"), and whether they're on that list, and whether the literal thousands of people killed are just acceptable sacrifices to maintain someone's worldview about 'the good guys'?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by mike_hearn »

freakynit wrote: post #354

I love such cases... because "almost" all of them have hidden political agendas... so, as usual, I let my investigative agent run over this and prepare me detailed connections graph between prominent personnel, orgs, funding, and political connections... https://5rights.stupidlabs.lol/ Disclaimer: this project of mine is still in development, and not quote 100% accurate.. so, take it with a bit of salt.. do your own…

That's super cool!

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by b112 »

ElProlactin wrote: post #352
b112 wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK. Now compare the entire world's militaries, over the last 50 years, worst-for-worst act. Or since you mentioned WWII, what's the worst done by armies during that time? Hmm? After all, you're trying to find and hold up the worst the US has done, right? So to compare, you need to find the worst in modern militaries. In militaries of all time. That was what I discussed, after all. I was quite clear. Compare to all of…

> But if you think the US military is evil, then you have never seen evil. Ever. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2006/08/nachtwey_phot... It takes a lot to get me to want to say something very nasty to a person but you, sir, would deserve it.

You're becoming abusive. But I guess if people don't agree with you, that makes it OK to step out of bounds.

Sort of like when military units go out of bounds, or the police?

Back to the point, have you yet made the comparisons I mentioned?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by freakynit »

mike_hearn wrote: post #357
freakynit wrote: post #354

I love such cases... because "almost" all of them have hidden political agendas... so, as usual, I let my investigative agent run over this and prepare me detailed connections graph between prominent personnel, orgs, funding, and political connections... https://5rights.stupidlabs.lol/ Disclaimer: this project of mine is still in development, and not quote 100% accurate.. so, take it with a bit of salt.. do your own…

That's super cool!

thanks.. there are a few nodes that are giving error when clicked.. but, i am fixing as i am discovering these... as I said, this is still in development...

Thanks for checking and good words..

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by mrweasel »

It might just be me, but when the US decides to do something like requiring age verification on porn sites it feels half-hearted, sort of stupid and mostly annoying. When the EU does it, it feels naive, overreaching, bureaucratic, mostly harmless (but annoying and misguided). When it is the UK that attacks privacy it feels incredibly dystopian, at least to me. It's somehow darker, compared to the US or the EU and I don't understand why.
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