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Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by ssl-3 »

blake8086 wrote: post #230
rustyhancock wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the interesting things about LLM training is that high quality documentation can get your product effectively promoted by them. I imagine the kind of advertising you're talking about is obtained by providing that documentation and a curated training dataset to the providers. Maybe even funding some training time. The net result would be product placement, probably without having to declare an advert. Kind of l…

Loctite already inadvertently does this. If you ask LLMs about threadlocker, or otherwise keeping screws in place, it will respond like a Loctite brochure to you, and usually never even mention competitors. They were ahead of the game!

Some of that may be because the common vernacular uses the word "Loctite" to describe any manner of threadlocker.

It is this way even though Loctite also produces a vast array of products that have nothing to do with theadlocker, and threadlockers are available from a wide variety of manufacturers.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by calvinmorrison »

walrus01 wrote: post #347
newfriend wrote: post #252

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Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

I wonder what Mike Judge thinks of the very real possibility of using AI video generation tools in 2026/2027 to implement "Ow! My Balls!" as a 24x7 streaming entertainment channel.

Even Ow My Balls! was a real guy, I saw him at Not Sure's Rehabilitation

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by danavar »

paxys wrote: post #121
kamranjon wrote: post #9

Pretty bold move to release this at the peak of the Open Models vs Proprietary Models debate. Feels like a really easy decision when it's framed this way.

This isn’t relevant to that debate. A billion people use the ChatGPT app without paying a dime. They don’t care what score the model gets on a hundred technical benchmarks. They don’t care if the weights are open or closed. They are definitely not hosting anything on their own. They want to ask a question and get an answer. If OpenAI can monetize that audience with ads at the level of Google then who cares about Anth…

this...there is a lot of value here, and the user data they gather from actual conversations is likely way better at using for ads than just the search data that google has.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by walrus01 »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #352
walrus01 wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what Mike Judge thinks of the very real possibility of using AI video generation tools in 2026/2027 to implement "Ow! My Balls!" as a 24x7 streaming entertainment channel.

Even Ow My Balls! was a real guy, I saw him at Not Sure's Rehabilitation

Yeah, but just think of the opportunities for new efficiencies and content creation. The Ow My Balls! guy can only work a max of 8 hours a day and has to eat and rest and sleep.

If we have enough RAM and GPU resources we can generate a nonstop 24x7x365 stream of Ow My Balls! video at equal to or greater than a 1:1 real time wall clock speed. Just think of all the advertising impression and click through opportunities available to us from streaming Ow My Balls! 24 hours a day.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by ncr100 »

Deeply untrustworthy event.

The profit motive for openAI becomes "attention". (Advert effectiveness is about impressions made to viewers belonging to relevant cohorts, under the presumption the relevant ad will receive more viewer attention, and "perform" better.)

Previously it was "correctness" , I assume.

Their monetization compromises their product.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by dijit »

I upvoted this submission, not because I like this, but because I think people need to see this.

If you are looking at upvotes as a measure of support OpenAI: Don’t.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by elictronic »

monster_truck wrote: post #246
altmanaltman wrote: post #166

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at the level of Google? Like you are underestimating how massive google is when it comes to ads. It is not that easy to just be at the level of google in advertising even if you are oai

This should be upvoted more. Saying it is not easy is an understatement. The chasm is so large that if you were to represent it on a globe it would rival oceans. I've been brought into places that were bought for half a billion+ to try and claw back half of a tenth of a percent of traffic. A redesign is pushed through that minimizes content, inflates metrics, and triples the ads. Users leave, everyone is fired, it's…

People are getting pissed and takes years of people not caring to create a regulatory moat like that. The current admin is not a moat maker. You can pay to play then your dropped 20 minutes later.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by prologic »

dijit wrote: post #357

I upvoted this submission, not because I like this, but because I think people need to see this. If you are looking at upvotes as a measure of support OpenAI: Don’t.

Same. I'm horrified, but also not surprised.

Re: Advertise in ChatGPT

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Post by nv78j »

gwerbin wrote: post #309
nv78j wrote: post #297

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People outside the ad world dont get the human attention pool is massively over fished. Its not just one corp trying to condition you but thousands. Not just via one channel but thro hundreds (sports/news/gaming/streaming/social/movies/tv/radio etc). Basically in such an environment what works at population scale is either spending more than everypne else (see the odessey marketing budget), constantly repeating your…

Yeah but OpenAI has the benefit of people actively going there and willingly giving quite a lot of their attention. It's a lot like Google in that respect. And the suggestion is pretty much the same as suggesting that Google offer a product where they boost your website or product or whatever in organic search results, instead of or in addition to displaying it as a sponsored link or ad or whatever. It's interesting…

There is no need for Premium because who ever wants more reach spends more. Look at online political spending every election cycle. The eyeballs available is not growing much election to election, but ad spend keeps jumping. So they just sit back and milk people who want attention desperatly, and inject more ads, more frequently everywhere on viewer side. Ideally there needs to be a system wide signal that if people have 20 mins of attention to spare a day and it is crossed there is an auto shutdown of all advertising. In the past on TV there were limits on how many ads can be shown, for how long per hour. Today there is no such limit. So corps ad budgets keep rising and consumer attention spans keep shrinking. Platform print cash. Its like how banks worked before central banks took over setting interest rates.
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