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PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by newsomix9xl »

infamia wrote: post #48
djaro wrote: post #41

As a professional YouTuber, the main issue I instantly see with this is the lack of monetization. I think people who don't make videos for a living severely underestimate how expensive it is to produce high-quality videos people want to watch. This isn't like writing a tweet or even posting a picture on Instagram. Even a decent 20-minute video can easily take 40 man-hours of high-skilled labor. I have a pretty small…

You can publish to both and even better your own domain that simply points to your video hosting provider. Long term you want to own your distribution channel as much as possible, while using YouTube as your lead generation tool to drive true believers to your site and premium distribution channel not owned by YouTube. Otherwise, you will always be subject to platform risk via YouTube's whims which has destroyed many…

Well said. So do prepublish to peer tube post it to my domain and then post to YouTube and link back to my domain ?

Does the order matter as long as I hit both?

Would having bonus content on the peertube version make sense ?

Or even more extreme do I want the YouTube bid to be a teaser to the peertube version?

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by newsomix9xl »

mywittyname wrote: post #57
infamia wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can publish to both and even better your own domain that simply points to your video hosting provider. Long term you want to own your distribution channel as much as possible, while using YouTube as your lead generation tool to drive true believers to your site and premium distribution channel not owned by YouTube. Otherwise, you will always be subject to platform risk via YouTube's whims which has destroyed many…

Realistically, how many viewers will be retained should YT shut the OP down? Right now, that number rounds to 0. Practically speaking, YT is free internet video streaming for long-form videos on the US market. Nobody is going to go to OP's personal site to watch videos. They are going to fire up YT and eat what the algorithm feeds them. The reason PeerTube and Nebula are important is it provides the potential for a t…

A bootstrap problem. No one goes until there's enough content and no one posts because there are no viewers.

What is needed is a way to ingest YouTube video through peertube or through a client that treats peertube as a primary destination and YT as a fallback.

This client then gives multihosting a single UI and blurs YT branding.

Maybe?

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by BrenBarn »

ShinyLeftPad wrote: post #349
ndriscoll wrote: post #344

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Yes, requiring payment to do things you love is sociopathic. It's the same as "keeping score" in a relationship. It will only make you and your counterparty grow to hate each other. This is exactly the "they just want something for free" dynamic. One or both parties thinks the other is an entitled freeloader and one or both thinks the other is an entitled dickhead. You take payment to do things that are acceptable to…

> Yes, requiring payment to do things you love is sociopathic I rest my case.

Do you really not understand that people might want to do things for reasons other than money?

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by ShinyLeftPad »

BrenBarn wrote: post #353
ShinyLeftPad wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, requiring payment to do things you love is sociopathic I rest my case.

Do you really not understand that people might want to do things for reasons other than money?

If you read my comments you can provide an actual counter argument instead of claiming i don't understand something

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by Animats »

touristtam wrote: post #336
whatever1 wrote: post #113

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This is exactly why TikTok won. It is so much cheaper to iterate ideas on 10” videos. You make non interesting 20’ YT video? Well too bad your 80 labor hours & equipment time are lost.

As a side note 10-12 min is the ideal length for a non full feature documentary. I am growing tired of those 20+ minutes repeating and stretching the same topic without going into more depth.

Yes. "To understand this, we have to go back to..." 10 minutes of unnecessary retrospective, allowing insertion of three more ads. Usually you can skip that and get to the five minutes or so of new content.

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by IncreasePosts »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #350
IncreasePosts wrote: post #150

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What Google makes is irrelevant to the content prouducer. What matters to them is what they could make on alternate platforms, and the answer is no where near that amount. The slice Google keeps is only relevant to Google and potential competitors who may try to move into the space.

> What Google makes is irrelevant to the content producer. Is it though? Let's say I weave a basket out of reeds I've spent the weekend picking from the shores of a local creek. I take the basket to a guy who pays me $20 for it. Then that same guy takes it to a swap meet that he runs in town and sells it for $200. That's just market economics, until you try to set up your own smaller swap meet on the route to this gu…

What's preventing anyone from trying to launch a YouTube competitor? Or content producers monetizing and hosting their own videos?

Re: PeerTube is a free, decentralized and federated video platform

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Post by satvikpendem »

account42 wrote: post #303
satvikpendem wrote: post #82

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Then there's even less reason to host outside of YouTube, why would I want to host a server that costs money if I'm not making any money from the videos? It works for those who want to own their content and verify its safety, or for ideological reasons such as supporting OSS but I'm not sure why the average user would care about PeerTube.

I guess you also never contribute to any potluck where you're not strictly required to?

You are required to contribute to potlucks by definition, false analogy.
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