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VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Yeah right, that worked out for Iranians quite well all these times.

Isn't putin begging y'all to get in tanks for Ukraine? Just find a like minded group of recruits and turn the tanks around

They thought of that. The Chechens, who were previously trying to kill Russians for free, are now paid by the Russians to do it [1].

1: https://torontosun.com/news/world/russian-execution-squads-h...

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> the UK arrests people for online posts more than Russia, China or Belarus Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. You’ve made an unsubstantiated assertion. I won’t hold my breath waiting for any references to support your ridiculous claim.

Here you go: https://pa.media/blogs/fact-check/fact-check-international-d... Now, there is one big issue for a couple of countries and that's that Russia and China probably don't report on the same level as the UK and Germany though for the UK, not all jurisdictions returned an answer, so the stats are likely higher for the UK. Then again in Russia, you can comment all you want if you avoid the one subject, well, may…

Interesting. I suspect that in Russia and China there’s a fair bit of self-censorship going on as a result of their restrictions. Which implies that if the UK proceeds down this path, there would be a lagging drop in arrests (once people get the hint after a few well publicised incidents).

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“But I don’t want to be a responsible parent, I want to destroy the unrestricted internet.”

Just like we destroyed unrestricted tobacco stores

Nobody has a right to unrestricted tobacco stores.

Everybody has a right to free speech, and free speech frequently requires anonymous speech. This is why the protection of journalists' sources is so important, and why principled journalists are willing to go to jail to protect them.

You yearn for the end and couldn't care less about the means. But there are also those who couldn't care less about the end, but yearn for the means.

How can you distinguish between the two? And which do you think best describes the parties behind this global push to de-anonymize the Internet?

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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I'm a Brit living abroad, when I visit the UK I use a Tailscale network with an exit node at my home, and yeah this always seems to work for me. Going the other way around to try and watch British TV I used to find with a normal hosted VPN services could still figure out I wasn't in the country, but now I have a Tailscale exit node at my mum's place in the UK it always works fine. So I suspect it all comes down to th…

Apps can read sim card info. Its country and whether the card is currently in roaming, you can't full them that way You would need to get your sim card out of your phone and use wifi or buy one of them foreign esim For vpns I actually found that websites that block vpns for some reasons are worse at detecting commercial vpns than when you deploy your own on vps --- Also I forgot about other things. When my phone for…

> Apps can read sim card info

Not on iOS

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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I've been using a VPN in the UK on my laptop and phone exclusively for 20 years, and the state has been working with ISPs to make "connection records" for most of that time. On mobile a VPN isn't always effective in avoid geoblocks. Some apps are able to determine I'm in the UK and still ask for ID - reddit is one for example, if you stumble on to an adult subreddit. Using the web interface avoids this. The UK has al…

On the mobile apps can check your SIMs country code. This is how bluesky knows the UK users (they used to use IP, not anymore)

On iOS, the CTCarrier calls for SIM info were deprecated back in iOS 16 and now just return blank data.

What they can check is which region of App Store they were installed from.

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It is really disheartening to see the sentiment around privacy erode like this. Fifteen or even ten years ago this would have been unanimously and vehemently opposed, but now it is somehow up for debate?

There has been 15 more years of highly motivated psychologists tuning their social media systems to create addiction, time for those who've grown up through this to become adults, foreign interference with democracy etc. Though I think banning it for children is the wrong approach. Ban the addictive and dangerous features for everyone, adults included — no more infinite scroll, and no more feeds showing content from…

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There has been 15 more years of highly motivated psychologists tuning their social media systems to create addiction, time for those who've grown up through this to become adults, foreign interference with democracy etc. Though I think banning it for children is the wrong approach. Ban the addictive and dangerous features for everyone, adults included — no more infinite scroll, and no more feeds showing content from…

> no more feeds showing content from outside social connections So, kill all news agencies and reporters I guess? or would there be a carve out for incumbents so they can cement their market share? who controls the approval list?

If a social media feed is purely social, news agencies have no more right to be there than to force themselves onto your table in a pub or a board games group.

Even if you want expand from social and allow commercial activity on them, it should still only be whoever you actually chose. It's not like Fox News can interrupt a BBC News broadcast on TV, or The New York Times can substitute itself for your normal copy of The Cambridge News: you chose what source you get, not an algorithm. (And there is a specific named editor to blame if some false story gets in that wasn't checked first for actually being true).

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Literally, tor.

Which will get blocked and go down, like, in no time. That's literally what happened in Russia - Tor is mostly unusable, you can't even bootstrap properly without some "tricks", so to speak.

Don't know, I use tor every day in Russia. Without it Internet would be unusable. The only problem I see is how to get initial distribution since the tor site is blocked.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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In Russia, they claimed that new measures to block websites are necessary to protect the children online. Of course, they immediately used these new capabilities to block opposition websites and sources critical of the government. Now, seeing many European governments tirelessly push for these new measures to protect the children , I'm pretty sure that the children are finally going to be safe online.

It is really disheartening to see the sentiment around privacy erode like this. Fifteen or even ten years ago this would have been unanimously and vehemently opposed, but now it is somehow up for debate?

The glasses might be too rosy, I doubt people would’ve fought that much “ten or fifteen years ago”. The general public never gave much thought to privacy, security, or freedom of choice when it came to tech.

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In Russia, they claimed that new measures to block websites are necessary to protect the children online. Of course, they immediately used these new capabilities to block opposition websites and sources critical of the government. Now, seeing many European governments tirelessly push for these new measures to protect the children , I'm pretty sure that the children are finally going to be safe online.

The excuses used by a propagandising dictatorship (for basically everything they do not just this) wouldn't be effective propaganda if they didn't touch a percieved need.

Even as adults, many find Facebook and Twitter in particular to be repugnant, and use them anyway as an addiction. LinkedIn is more the butt of jokes about how everyone is excited by their new future even when they're newly looking for work, but at least they have minigames now.

YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok have a reputation for funelling people into conspiracies, but IDK if that's totally fair or them getting painted with the same brush in a moral panic.

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