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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Eh I gave up on ubiquiti (for home/small office). Their UI is pretty (lmao ui.com) but their software is terrible, unreliable. Logs are filled with errors which is "normal" etc.

Can’t wrap my head around how their firewall rules work. Default rule and there is no way to change it.

And lately the interface has been so convoluted and nonsensical. DNS records sure now “policies”, you can only assign very essential rules like setting routing rules to known objects based on MAC address - the ui doesn’t allow you to pick an IP address.

I wanted to create a special routing rules to allow a container using macvlans to always leave through ISP2. Since this is a macvlan the interface MAC address was different every time the system started. Mind you “ip x.x.x.x goes through link 2” is one of those basic things firewalls and routers do since forever but if the object doesn’t exist on their automated inventory then forget it.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I love by Dream Machine Pro. Seems to just work and keep everything up to date. I have it running my security cameras as well and it has been pretty much bullet proof. What needs do you have for a router that the Cloud Gateway is missing or is bad at? A PiHole equivalent is about all I can think I'm missing.

IPv6 support is basic at best. The zone-based firewall is very prescriptive and limited. ACL stuff is not great. To increase the MTU of the physical interface connected to the ISP I would need to hack a systemd unit that did it on boot (I either need it at 1508 so the PPPoE interface uses 1500, or I need to MSS clamp it and have it effectively reduced to 1492). Initial configuration requires the device to be connecte…

1492 is the default frame size set by unifi on wan pppoe. You neither need to know such esoteric details nor need to set them. “It just works”

You can also modify your frame size: Unifi Devices - Gateway - Settings - MSS Clamping.

In my view , unifi gives you all the power and very good defaults at a very reasonable price. Their nearest competitors (eero on consumer side and ruckus / Aruba on business side) have less features and more price.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

Now if only Ubiquiti could solve the problem where everything is always out of stock.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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And those classes available for the public has less voting rights than Elons stock so even worse.

So man makes company, man shares profitability of company with world to invest in. World complains they can't outvote man.

Im not an investor so I don’t care. But anyone buying into SpaceX should probably care that you are investing in a company you have zero influence in.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Ubiquiti bubble is so tiring, it is like AI bubble and Apple bubble. These people live within a bubble. Overpriced piece of hardware that you will never own because it runs proprietary firmware, you are forced to install apps to take full advantage from those devices.

> Overpriced piece of hardware

Sure maybe this NAS is overpriced compared to building it yourself but those are different target markets.

When it comes to wireless access points you really can't beat $99 for home use. I've never had any reliability issues, never had to even think about my network, rebooting my router, those issues are just completely in the past and the single-pane-of-glass makes networking such a non-burden. I feel confident knowing my network is not running on some piddly proprietary TP-link fork of openWRT running who knows what else.

> hardware that you will never own because it runs proprietary firmware,

I don't really buy these things to install a gameboy emulator on them, they're appliances to solve my problem of "need internet" and they work flawlessly. More power to people who achieve that solution by buying their own SDR PCIe cards and wiring that all up, but I don't have time for that nor does it really matter to me.

> forced to install apps to take full advantage from those devices.

As opposed to busting out an RJ11 cable and configuring them over serial or something? The management platform is part of the value prop, you're clearly not the target audience :)

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I have enough dollars and hours invested with Ubiquiti to have an opinion here. They manage to make performant, capable hardware for a decent price. Then they give you shit configuration tools, a shit configuration experience, vendor lock in, and forced to the cloud. So on balance no thank you per my personal priorities. If you expect cloud and vendor lock in is a plus that you’re accustomed to with other maybe enter…

> Then they give you shit configuration tools, a shit configuration experience, vendor lock in, and forced to the cloud.

you haven't had the pleasure of managing a Cisco environment have you?

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

I've been so impressed with Ubiquiti that I've decided to target FreeBSD for my current side project. Their camera system is wonderful. Their DreamMachine is a massive upgrade for my home network. Their APs are rock solid, no hassle, just work, and it integrates so well. I have my work / home on different subnets. I have the kids on a different subnet and behind a firewall providing some protection against ads. Very…

Their camera system isnt awful, but I would still pick Frigate over it (I have the option for both at home and have ran each). Frigate is nice in that it works with any old RTSP IP camera - many features in Unifi's NVR support only work with their own over-priced cameras. High quality PoE cameras are extremely cheap nowadays. If you connect a non-Ubiquiti branded RTSP cam to their NVR software you lose a ton of features.

> https://frigate.video/

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> a modest 80tb one for my home lab I laughed.

It's wild but 80TB actually is modest compared to some of the enthusiasts on /r/homelab and /r/datahoarders that are running 300TB NAS servers at home. 80TB can still maybe fit in a single box. (8x10TB)

Synology systems will take 24TB drives (let’s not dive into which drives they’ll take). However there is a volume limit depending on processor.

https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/Why_does_my_Synol...

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Better still, fill the room with the same scent they add to town gas. Anyone with an ounce of self preservation will get out of the building VERY FAST.

heh, i'm afraid that smell will linger on longer than you want to try in a building used as living quarters... :)

It’d be fine. The smell of victory.
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