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Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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Post by pseudalopex »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #291
trumpdong wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No true Scotsman

not exactly - I'm referring to scripture as the arbiter

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #96
michaelt wrote: post #18

I sometimes wonder whether the people in the tech industry who worked on things like secure boot, attestation, and DRM saw this as the inevitability open source advocates always saw it as. Did they think, as they worked to transfer final say from users to corporations, by technical means, that politicians couldn't transfer that control to themselves by political means? Did they think they could lock things down to ex…

Meanwhile Signal Corporation keeps trying to connect to updates2.signal.org even when the app is not being used. "Automatic updates", remote code execution by default with no option to disable Silicon Valley has its own ideas of what "privacy" and "surveillance" mean To those folks, it does not mean privacy from Silicon Valley companies The Signal app will keep on trying to connect to the mothership Because to the pe…

I don't use Signal

I test mobile apps on a throwaway phone to see what connections they try to make, if any

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Post by dgellow »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #345
dgellow wrote: post #279

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Email is the most free, decentralized communication channel we have. It’s fully async, so you consume it at the pace you want. What makes you against emails? Just curious

My primary thoughts on exiting email came after reading Paul Graham's excellent essay on email being nothing more than a to-do list that ANYBODY can add on to [†]. SPAM-rant: I personally feel that a system needs to exist/replace email... which uses some sort of low-tx-fee crypto to "cost money" for each and every email sent. The recipients could then "refund" such fees, optionally & consentually, when they've determ…

Oh yes, that's a good point. Email as a todo list is pretty horrible. I myself have high anxiety and just accepted I will never be able to effectively use emails in the todo list way.

I've been noodling with concepts for what I see as my ideal email client and orienting it towards "conversations" instead of "todo list" is a key aspect I want

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

dgellow wrote: post #353
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My primary thoughts on exiting email came after reading Paul Graham's excellent essay on email being nothing more than a to-do list that ANYBODY can add on to [†]. SPAM-rant: I personally feel that a system needs to exist/replace email... which uses some sort of low-tx-fee crypto to "cost money" for each and every email sent. The recipients could then "refund" such fees, optionally & consentually, when they've determ…

Oh yes, that's a good point. Email as a todo list is pretty horrible. I myself have high anxiety and just accepted I will never be able to effectively use emails in the todo list way. I've been noodling with concepts for what I see as my ideal email client and orienting it towards "conversations" instead of "todo list" is a key aspect I want

I got a pager and a landline [¬]. Bots haven't figured out how to interface with numeric paging systems, yet; nor have most meatsicle operators/salesmen (but it's easy to teach your friends&family). #no-apps #no-location-services #no-text

Should anybody in my contact list need to "email something," we do so while on a phonecall via a temp-burner receiving address (auto-deletes after 10 minutes).

== no email to-do list

If later somesuchbody says "did you get my email, I sent it yesterday?" I can legitimately and verifiably respond "nope."

[¬] the latter, recently; service isn't "on" yet but soon... will not have a ringer, page-only

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Post by sophrosyne42 »

autoexec wrote: post #149
TimTheTinker wrote: post #46

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Those who would think of such a passage (or any biblical passage) and those who push for a total-control agenda are disjoint sets. Communism and fascism were both fueled by atheism (either explicit or functional), not a Judeo-Christian worldview. "Ohne Gott und Sonnenschein bringen wir die Ernte ein." (Without God and without sun, we will get the harvest done.) - the slogan of East Germany in 1975 when people were hu…

Christian fascism exists. In the US it's how fascism came to the country. Christofascism doesn't seem to have any problem with the absence of atheism.

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

dgellow wrote: post #353
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My primary thoughts on exiting email came after reading Paul Graham's excellent essay on email being nothing more than a to-do list that ANYBODY can add on to [†]. SPAM-rant: I personally feel that a system needs to exist/replace email... which uses some sort of low-tx-fee crypto to "cost money" for each and every email sent. The recipients could then "refund" such fees, optionally & consentually, when they've determ…

Oh yes, that's a good point. Email as a todo list is pretty horrible. I myself have high anxiety and just accepted I will never be able to effectively use emails in the todo list way. I've been noodling with concepts for what I see as my ideal email client and orienting it towards "conversations" instead of "todo list" is a key aspect I want

>orienting it towards "conversations" instead of "todo list" is a key aspect I want

We probably both grew up on AOLim... which to me was a fantastic, globally-accessible solution.

Several employers over the past decades have had IRC groupchats, but it's internal-only, and not quite AIM's glorydays.

Although I imagine if instant messengers were more popular, today..: they'd be just as scammy as everything else-s become.

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Post by aiisjustanif »

autoexec wrote: post #340
aiisjustanif wrote: post #337

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People really should stop conflating the technical requirements for an optional back service, with they are always collecting our data and anything is a lie.

The back up service is optional, but Signal still collects your name, photo, phone number, and worst of all, your contacts. That is not optional. There is nothing you can do to stop it. That information will be collected and stored in the cloud. It's also exactly the kind of information Signal used to brag about not being able to provide to law enforcement because they never collected it in the first place. Well, now…

> Signal still collects your name, photo, phone number, and worst of all, your contacts

Having been involved in a subpoena to Signal, this is not true prior to 2025. Signal does not store any of this on their servers, except for your phone number. I’ve never seen an incident in my career being able to pull a contact from signal.

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