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Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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This change would go against multiple consumer guarantees in Australia where it's 1) a right to have undisturbed possession of a product 2) products must be fit for the advertised purpose https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/buying-products-and-servic... Microsoft would be breaking consumer law if the change goes ahead for the perpetual licenses they sold in Australia

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why do people build bots like ^ what is the motive?

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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That's why anything that goes against the long-established corporate culture aren't likely to stay around for long.

Visual Studio Code has been around over a decade and there is zero indication it's going anywhere.

Apart from academics, who are forced to stay away from ai, i feel vs code will regress to a code reader as the models improve.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Did Apple pay them to drop support to boost their revamped Numbers/Pages/Keynote suite (ClarisWorks Infitniy.0). Obviously this is a joke, though there was a period when Microsoft invested in Apple to serve as a stand-in foil for the anti-trust lawsuit. So tactical investing for something other than monetary ROI has precedent …

People keep saying that Microsoft invested in Apple to defeat anti-trust measures. They did not. They lost the Video for Windows lawsuit (Apple v San Francisco Canyon Company, Microsoft, Intel). Buying the non-voting stock was part of the remedy. Microsoft would gladly become a monopoly if they could get away with it.

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OnlyOffice is better than LibreOffice for people who want a more direct alternative to Microsoft Office https://www.onlyoffice.com/ (it's AGPL... there is an ongoing dispute with a fork now)

The fork is called EuroOffice and will be released next month. Onlyoffice is from Russian developers and includes binary blobs, it's not fully open source.

Russian developers, really ? Thanks for mentioning, I will download it and try it out, because there is nothing wrong with anything that is originated in Russia or made by Russian people.

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I started migrating away for VSCode, piece by piece. But if you need it: Theia/Positron/VSCodium For Python/Julia? Many alternatives. For C family? Similar Java/Go? Similar.

I keep VSCode because their seamless SSH integration (remote files editing) is so damn good.

Filezilla Portable for me. I never use SSH through VSCode. Most of the people I work with, do.

VSCode is a binary product and therefore it is dangerous.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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There are many open source alternatives/upgrades to M$$$ products. No reason to keep using them. Literally none. I have been a happy exclusive only user of OO/LibeOffice since 2004. Some times I needed to use MSOffice for a paper. It was always problematic. I haven't use VS since 2007. I migrated to gcc. Never had a problem. SQLServer? Only for demo and at work just to pull or save data. Postgres always saved the day…

I think you are missing the point. It’s about software preservation and abiding by the implied expectations at the time of sale.

M$$$ and other companies don't give a damn for software preservation.

We do as a community.

Many open source Windows deserve preservation. Even if they are abandoned.

But blobs? No way.

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...on a Mac?

Yeah that makes no sense. Those AI are not running macOS instances to make you a docx. If anything, I’d expect them to write the weirdo xml of that cursed file format directly.

> If anything, I’d expect them to write the weirdo xml of that cursed file format directly.

Isn't this essentially what Claude Cowork is doing? AFAIK, it's running python in a VM and using stuff like xlxswriter, openpyxl, etc. at least it was last time I used it to generate some docs.

I've done that myself too when making some excel reports for management out of pandas data frames.

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Most Microsoft purchases at a large organization are rational only because of how much the company has already sunk into Microsoft. Microsoft's strategy had never been centered on their software succeeding on its intrinsic merits. Consequently the best part of not buying Microsoft's shitty software is that it spares you from "having" to buy their (other) shitty software.

> Microsoft's strategy had never been centered on their software succeeding on its intrinsic merits. Microsoft used to build the best stuff. I'm not sure when that ended, I just remember the decline. I used to -jump- at release day for their latest OS version. Their dev tools were considered top tier and I used to like Word. Now every interaction I have with a MS product is painful and my trust in them is so far nega…

I dunno what you're talking about. Even the "creation" of MS-DOS wasn't like that. When was Microsoft making the best stuff? When they were selling their version of Basic, before MS-DOS?

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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The best company to do Microsoft in is Microsoft. They are responsible for awesome sales of MacBook Neo.

I disagree. I suspect the vast majority of Neo sales are simply driven by the ability to get Apple-quality laptop hardware for such a low price. As such, the people driving the Neo sales are competing manufacturers who offer cheap nasty plastic underpowered Windows laptops around that price point. A small minority of buyers may be primarily buying the Neo to escape Windows; but I would argue that if someone is this s…

I would buy a Neo to escape Windows but it's not like macOS is a pleasant experience either.

My next mobile workstation will probably be an arm laptop with Linux for great battery life.

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