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Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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> Rather than age-gating technologies like VPNs, we believe that regulators should address the root causes of online harm by holding platforms to account Honest question: if you tell Pornhub "now you will be fined heavily if you let 10-year old kids access porn", won't Pornhub implement some kind of age verification? How else would the platform "address the root cause"?

The easiest, and the fairest way in my opinion, is to realize parents can and should be responsible for what their children read. Just like you wouldn't give your kid access to your BDSM porn magazines from the 80s, you shouldn't let him online without supervision. Other than that, there is no "online harm". No root cause of anything that would need to be addressed, no problems whatsoever. It's just information passi…

I believe that it is possible to compromise. Of course, the parents must play their role. But it doesn't mean that it should be legal to publish porn ads to kids, and hope that the parents install an ad blocker, does it?

I don't think we can (and I don't think we should) completely block porn from the Internet. But I could imagine that privacy-preserving age verification on Pornhub could make it slightly less accessible to kids (even it if is by opening a link without knowing what it is). I wouldn't block VPNs though: if someone is able to access Pornhub with a VPN through a country that doesn't mandate age verification, then they will be able to access porn anyway.

And then there is not only porn. To me the value of age verification is really to block kids from accessing social media. And again, no need to block VPNs there: it just has to be less accessible to kids. I don't believe that most kids will get a VPN to access social media. Kids are on social media because kids are on social media, we just need to break the network effect.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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It sounds like you should exercise your right as a parent to choose a different school that is more in line with your values, instead of attempting to force your values on everyone. Fortunately many states are experimenting with school vouchers and other programs to help parents choose alternatives. It has some downsides (some public schools are having trouble adapting and special ed is an issue) but it may help with…

Serious question: how do you get your kid(s) to another school? Add an hour of travel time every day?

Vote for school choice.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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And exist because of the amount of work Mozilla does in keeping the browser up to date.

How many Firefox developers are actual Mozilla employees?

No affiliation with Mozilla, just a very long time FF user.

They don't release this info so I don't know. That said, the best info I can find is here [0]. It claims that 87% of Firefox's contributions are from "mozilla". Red Hat also contribute. If you dig into some of Mozilla's outgoings, a lot of their non-employee outgoing spend is going on paying other vendors to work on their software. At least some of these looks like "paying people to work on firefox but not mozilla employees" - maybe it's EOR/contracting stuff. There is a huge outlier in André Bargull too, but it looks like as far as this analysis is concerned mozilla are absolutely integral to the current state of FF.

[0] https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.htm...

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Reality has become indistinguishable from satire.

And you couldn't make Blazing Saddles today.

They couldn't make blazing saddles back then either. What we got was a cut back version of the original script

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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I guess some people living in countries with high crime rates are just tired of it, therefore they are just looking for any solution. In safer countries where you don't have potential criminals on every corner the perspective is different. I wouldn't want 24/7 surveillance in Poland or Czechia but I would consider them being lesser evil in big US or UK cities.

Which UK cities have high crime rates? The murder rate in the UK is much lower than in the US and slightly higher than in Poland, been trending down for a long time and pretty typical for a developed country.

Which points to another issue: people's perception of how much crime exists probably correlates more with how much media they consume than what the real crime rates are.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Which is true. Irma/Yivi [1] in NL/BE proves that to be the case. But it always works with a trusted third party. The client, after confirming auth with the human, generates a unique key for the platform. The platform asks the trusted third party to verify this key, and then a scope is defined. For example: 'is this person 18+?' the response to the platform is then 'Yes' or 'No'. [1] https://yivi.app

So, the trusted third party gets to know which sites you visit?

No.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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"Regulators". Think about what that means. It's essentially a mechanism to stop the free market of exchange which is detrimental to the debt based system we live in. To stop this, everything you do has to be tracked and no privacy is allowed.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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1984 is extremely naive. It assumes that people will fight for their freedom and insane measures will be needed to keep them in check. So foolishly optimistic… people can’t wait to give freedom away if only they get a stable job and housing in exchange. Or if it hits these other guys they don’t like at the moment. It’s all much, much less dramatic than Orwell. It is an ordinary, everyday erosion of your rights until…

I always thought in the 1984 story people get into trouble despite themselves. The main character is not trying to overthrow the state at all. He wants the girl, and writes down his thoughts, making it easy to accuse him. Nothing about what he thinks about strikes me as odd or unique in the least. He has simple and obvious reasons for doubting the state ... and only for a little while.

I actually went a bit through the book again and this is discussed, at length, in the book. The state security services explain (as if they would ever explain that in reality) that going after innocent people is a feature, not a bug. They're going after supposedly disloyal people just to put the fear in everyone, despite knowing perfectly well that these people aren't actually disloyal. That they know perfectly well the accusations they make are false.

The accusations are not the point. Well, occasionally there are actual criminals where it is the point but in the 99% case is isn't the point.

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