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US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by account42 »

Neikius wrote: post #206
Neikius wrote: post #198

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Agreed. Weirdly many people are against. This really seems like the best possible option. Actually helps parents as without this there is no way to enforce kid age. So instead of having it all per account and everything linked in most privacy invading way, just your OS tells the apps/browser whatever was set in there by the parent. I want this now!

I guess we are expecting this to be backdoored with biometrics later? I don't see how anyone can force this on Linux. I still prefer to have this in my OS above having every Random internet vendor collecting my biometrics and id documents.

> I guess we are expecting this to be backdoored with biometrics later?

Definitely. And with trusted computing for the OS and browser so that those random internet vendors can be sure the OS performed all the required validation.

> I don't see how anyone can force this on Linux.

That will be the problem of Linux, not of the lawmakers.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by account42 »

Neikius wrote: post #241
stephbook wrote: post #91

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Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

Well let's postulate parent set age on that up Ubuntu account to 13. Pornhub will query browser spi, which will query os API. Very elegant. Ofc as soon as you give your child root access it is over but that is on you

You don't need root access to install ~/haxxor-firefox-that-lies-about-your-age

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by hammock »

cmiles74 wrote: post #323
ranger_danger wrote: post #320

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That doesn't answer my question though, sorry.

Maybe you mean where in bill does it say a US photo ID is required. I think your are correct, I don't believe such a requirement exists in the bill itself and that's a big part of the article. Because the law doesn't require this, there's a very real risk that people won't realize that, if you are an adult, you will be required to upload a photo of your state ID. Prople might support the bill and only realize what it…

Yeah this is the whole point. It’s not (currently) possible to verify your age without at least revealing your identity.

You can talk about birthday hash or whatever, I don’t see it happening

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by VIPULLALANI »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

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What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by jhayrus »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by vickylou123 »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by lush23 »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by lush23 »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by midu1234 »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Post by dionjeamiel »

stephbook wrote: post #91
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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