Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

showbiz411.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

351–360 of 395 posts

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#351

Post by dwedge »

aaronharnly wrote: post #286
topherhunt wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song…

Some of us want to support actual human musicians?

Man this is my current bug bear. Last year I wanted to go offline for all my music. So many of these sites selling mp3s complain about how Spotify pays a fraction of a cent per stream and I should buy music, and I agree.

But then they sell the mp3 albums at $15, more than the physical version ever was. Come on, there has to be a middle ground. At $5 each I'll buy 20, at $15 maybe 1

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#353

Post by JoeDaDude »

topherhunt wrote: post #283
yoz-y wrote: post #243

Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.

I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song…

This "human connection" is over rated IMHO. We tend to create an image of what a human musician is like and we forget that they are, well, human. Too often human musicians have disappointed fans because of their lifestyle (the expression sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll exists for a reason) or because some do not agree with the social and political causes the musicians support. Occasionally, fans follow an artist for their commitment to their art later to discover they sell out in some way, like their style changes to achieve greater mass appeal, or the sell their work to become a jingle for sugar pops or similar. I think it is best to appreciate their creation and admit the person creating it may not be someone to place undue adulation on. To quote a film, I think it is best to "separate the art from the artist".

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#354

Post by gizajob »

mckn1ght wrote: post #198
gizajob wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not a machine. I’m also tired of hearing that ontological take spouted by AI enthusiasts.

I think humans are machines, they are just vastly more advanced than any machine invented by humans. This is something I thought long before the current AI hype cycle. What do you think are some important differences between machines and humans?

Humans are organic, biological, evolved animal beings. Machines are tools we make and use.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#357

Post by butlike »

pards wrote: post #329
croon wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).

Guns N' Roses blazed this trail in 1986 with their faux live EP titled Live ?! @ Like a Suicide [0] which was reissued as the B-side to G N' R Lies in 1988. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide

Get your ya ya's out by The Rolling Stones is also a 'live studio album'

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#358

Post by jatora »

krige wrote: post #288
jatora wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue that the human element in music is not an important contributor towards the enjoyment of music for exactly 100% of people. Humans just biologically enjoy rhythmic sounds. We don't care who makes it, we don't care how it is performed live. Those things are just hijacking emotional memory in heightened moments, but that is completely separate from the general natural enjoyment of music. AI music simply dr…

I would counter-argue that you're accusing the other party of exactly the shallow thinking you're guilty of - even worse, you cannot concieve of a thing, so you confidently state thing does not exist and the other party is at best a liar. One only has to have a cursory knowledge of performances on, say, pianos, to know that who and how plays an established piece was always a big deal.

You are missing the point entirely. As I already said: live performances are a completely separate type of enjoyment than music enjoyment. It is dishonest to ignore all of the music you enjoy that has nothing to do with performance, and to cherry pick the less than 1% of music you have likes that also overlaps with what you have seen performed live. Please, this only takes a couple seconds of actual critical thought.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#359

Post by jorl17 »

avian wrote: post #248
jorl17 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately these are people in my circles: friends and family. So I cannot bring you any recommendations.

I'm reminded of something I've read somewhere "Nothing is more boring than listening about someone else's dreams". I think it tells a lot about AI-generated art. People prompting the AI find it fascinating because they look at it with in the context of their internal thoughts and moods that led them to it. But the generated artwork itself doesn't communicate that context at all. A complete stranger will find it deriv…

Or perhaps I just like some of it in general.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#360

Post by jabroni_salad »

slyall wrote: post #97
yial wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Through my professional / personal network, I know someone who advertises himself as being a “Best Selling Amazon Author in XYZ category.” It is semi niche, but I did some ballpark math, and about 72 sales rapidly would put him in the top spot for that niche. That number sounds about right when he’s mentioned the gross $ sales of his book.

Pretty common for authors to get people to pre-order their books so when they go on sale they top the chart for that day (the book's release day) in their category.

Not even just for their category. "NYT bestsellers" has been manipulated like this since inception.
Post reply on HN