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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by ValentineC »

cylemons wrote: post #320
chatmasta wrote: post #176

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Do hacks like “read prompt.md, and follow its instructions. When you’re done, read it again and follow its instructions.” And then you have some background process appending to the file to keep it warm and you just keep writing there?

There is a limit on how much copilot can do in one request, pretty generous but after some time vscode will say "this request is taking very long, do you want to continue" and that would count as a seperate request

> but after some time vscode will say "this request is taking very long, do you want to continue" and that would count as a seperate request

I don't think that's true. In VS Code, that's also configurable via the chat.agent.maxRequests setting.

There was absurd latency in the Copilot Opus 4.6 model on 1st and 2nd April which led to lots of my requests timing out with nothing to show though.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by chuckadams »

GolfPopper wrote: post #226
netule wrote: post #194

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Copilot Copilot for Copilot

You could try Copilot Copilot for Windows with Windows Copilot. I know it's still got Copilot in it, but not as much as Copilot Copilot Copilot Copilot MS Office for Windows Copilot.

But I don't like Copilot!

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by chirau »

dwedge wrote: post #324
chirau wrote: post #302

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Do you have any numbers to support your claim that Azure is imploding? Or that they gave up on AI goals? Both Azure and Intelligent Cloud continue to beat expectations in revenue and adoption. Don't just make stuff up because you don't like the product or company.

https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/copilot/articles/microsoft-scales-...

Not only was this claim proved to be false, the earnings report that followed also told a different story.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-lowers-ai-softw...

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by michaelcampbell »

lateforwork wrote: post #14

Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

Naming all your products with X because it uses some fashion of X is certainly a choice.

I think Satya has lost the thread, even in a CEO context.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by Lihh27 »

simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

It's a feature, not a bug. If nobody can pinpoint which instance is crashing, you can't confidently figure out if you need to cancel the $19/mo, the $30/mo, or the $39/mo SKU. Obfuscation as a service.

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Post by dataflow »

lxgr wrote: post #330
dataflow wrote: post #246

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I believe you're almost entirely wrong unfortunately. It is true that Windows has subsystems as a technical feature, yes. However, I don't think it's true that WSL (v1, let alone v2) was part of that architecture, despite the name. AFAIK that existing subsystem notion was a user-mode one, where each subsystem was built mostly in user-mode on top of the NT ("native") subsystem, with binaries in the PE format. WSL just…

That doesn't seem like a contradiction to the idea that "Windows subsystem" is (at least after WSL 1 and especially 2) a description for a functionality (i.e. running binaries targeting a different OS's interfaces), not an implementation.

No, as I explained, that's not what the actual subsystem architecture did. The binaries very much targeted Windows and did not target any other OSes. They weren't (say) ELF files targeting Linux, they were PE files targeting Windows, and you had to compile them from source with special flags to target those subsystems on Windows. You could not run those binaries on other OSes. The compatibility was at the source level, not at the binary level.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by MarsIronPI »

beAbU wrote: post #303
MarsIronPI wrote: post #212

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux is in fact not the origin of the "everything is a file". More properly, "everything is a file" is a Unix concept and Unix's creators deserve credit for the idea. Though Plan9 carries it out much better: Unix networking isn't file-based, Plan9's is. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

did you remember to push your glasses up your nose bridge before writing your comment

No sorry, I forgot (i.e. I don't wear glasses (yet)).

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by MarsIronPI »

x______________ wrote: post #288
unangst wrote: post #217

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Copilot copilots Copilot copilots copilot copilot Copilot copilots

I just woke up, please for the love of ai slop, stop before you break my definition of the word copilot! (Fun fact: If you repeat a word sufficiently, it will lose its meaning..)

> (Fun fact: If you repeat a word sufficiently, it will lose its meaning..)

Too late. Microsoft already caused that to happen.

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