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Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by technothrasher »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #342
jakelsaunders94 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really interesting. I've been out of education for a long time, but I was wondering how they were dealing with the advent of AI. Are exams still a thing? Do people do coursework now that you can spew out competent sounding stuff in seconds?

I teach CS at a university in Spain. Most people here are in denial. It is obvious to me that we need to go back to grading based on in-person exams, but in our last university reform (which tried to copy the US/UK in many aspects) there was so much political posturing and indoctrination about exams being evil and coursework having to take the fore that now most people just can't admit the truth before their own eyes…

> Except that if a student wants to learn without using them

My son, who is a freshman at a major university in NYC, when he said to his freshman English professor that he wanted to write his papers without using AI, was told that this was "too advanced for a freshman English class" and that using AI was a requirement.

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Post by bluefirebrand »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #280
bluefirebrand wrote: post #270

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> Serious reply to this one: I truly don’t find it any more scary than what’s already taken place many times in human history Spoken like someone who thinks they are going to be insulated from the fallout

Many of us are fine with the fallout because we understand the net benefit to humanity is going to be similar to the previous waves of automation. Sure, it might hurt me personally. I'm not selfish enough to put that over what will be an incredibly empowering development for our species.

I don't believe for even a second that the net benefit to humanity is going to be positive

This will be good for a handful of elites and no one else

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Post by pvorb »

I really like this paragraph about management caring about AI:

> What makes this worse, is our bosses have bought into it this time too. My managers never cared much about database technologies, IDE’s or javascript frameworks; they just wanted the feature so they could sell it. Management seems to have stepped firmly and somewhat haphazardly into the implementation detail now. I reckon most of us have got some sort of company initiative to ‘use more AI’ in our objectives this year.

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Post by marcus_holmes »

It's a conversational black hole. Every meeting with tech folks converges on what they're doing with LLMs these days.

Our local tech meetup is implementing an "LLM swear jar" where the first person to mention an LLM in a conversation has to put a dollar in the jar. At least it makes the inevitable gravitational pull of the subject somewhat more interesting.

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Post by thisoneisreal »

Insanity wrote: post #272

Yes, and I'm increasingly bored of talking about 'the internet'. AI definitely plays a part in that, I don't want to deal with randomly generated articles or content. But even regular content, like YouTube shorts, are unhealthy for the human brain. I'm currently reading non-things by Byung-Chul Han, which is an interesting exploration of internet's impact on humanity/humans. Haven't finished it yet, but enjoying it s…

Hadn't heard of this book. Picked up a sample based on your comment and I'm really enjoying it, thanks.

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Post by mindcrime »

artur_makly wrote: post #267
_doctor_love wrote: post #243

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Thanks friend! Appreciate it. Agree, the diversity of the discourse is not great. There's a lot of "omg I just got started waaauw" articles out there along with "we're all gonna die!" stuff. And then a few seams of very excellent insight. Deep research at least helps with dowsing for the knowledge...

your HN handle is one of my top 10 fav tracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RSniyYNSc {heart}

And here I was expecting this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Rl8TpGIP4

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Post by dandrew5 »

4k93n2 wrote: post #336
JSR_FDED wrote: post #41

I’m sad that it’s crowded out all the interesting stuff I used to love learning about on HN.

you can at least block some of it out with ublock origin? news.ycombinator.com##td.title:has-text(/LLM|AI/i)

I use a bookmarklet for this: https://github.com/dan-lovelace/hn-blocklist

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Post by leptons »

amelius wrote: post #173
_doctor_love wrote: post #153

This might sound like snark, but I truly don’t mean it that way. I think what’s interesting about AI, and why there’s so much conversation, is that in order to be a good user of AI, you have to really understand software development. All the people I work with who are getting the most value out of using AI to deliver software are people who are already very high-skilled engineers, and the more years of real experienc…

This is really not true. There are stories of people who had no background in software engineering who now write entire applications using AI. And I have personally seen this happen.

I've seen people generate a lot of vibeslop with AI, but they didn't actually "Write entire applications using AI".

They still have absolutely no clue how it works, so how could they "write entire applications"? They vibed it, but they certainly didn't write any of it, not one bit of it, and they're clueless as to how to extend it, upgrade it, and maintain it so that the AI doesn't make it a bloated monstrosity of AI patches and fixes and workarounds that they simply could never begin to understand.

They were also following a dozen youtube tutorials step by step, so even that part was someone else doing the thinking.

Yeah, these are the same guys constantly bugging me to help them figure something out.

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