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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

hormuz.pythonic.ninja

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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What I have said has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. I am firmly on the side of not tolerating the intolerant, but stating that, "not tolerating" does not extend to "starting wars in an attempt at world conquest to rid the world of the intolerant".

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> We tried the nuke deal and they lied and kept building

This is a lie. A complete fabrication. Trump says this, completely baselessly, without a shred of evidence, as known liars are wont to do. They allowed inspectors in and not one of them ever suggested they were violating the terms of the deal.

> How many have to die for us to decide to act.

This is a murky question, but if anybody was going to intervene in a country's domestic affairs, it would need to be by broad international consensus to have any legitimacy. It absolutely cannot be a unilateral invasion where one country decides who is worthy of invading and who is not. Moreover, that is not why they were invaded. Whatever qualms you have with the Iranian regime, this war is not a war to instate democracy in Iran. We already saw with Venezuela literally just two months ago that Trump invaded and deposed the leader, only to keep the current regime in place with an agreement to serve as his country's economic vassal. Stop projecting your own justifications for why you would invade Iran if you were President of the United States, to justify the actions of the current one who is not invading for those reasons. The only thing you are doing by justifying his invasion for unrelated reasons is giving your support to the death of more innocent Iranians that you ostensibly want to help.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Lol. What exactly is it teaching me to think? Imo it’s barely political. Like it’s political in the sense that it’s topical, yes. And it has a mocking tone about the “tired of winning” speech, but that isn’t exactly a partisan position - even if you’re a supporter of his policies that’s a rediculous and mockable speech.

Easy framing 1. provide outline 2. audience fills in gaps 3. audience doesn't realize they were led to come to a certain conclusion. The more subtle the better.

Ok. What conclusions?

Like I agree this is a topical game. But to call it political implies it has a political position. If you belive it does, what is it?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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We’ve seen with Palestine that human suffering, unfortunately, does not motivate Americans like gas prices do. So it’s not a reflection of my priorities so much as something to point to to get people to stop supporting Trump’s policies. At the end of the day, we have heard the same thing for a decade. Ignore his tone, ignore his words, ignore this or that policy, because the economy is/is going to be great. When the…

This is not about Trump. Sorry about Oct. 7th. Israel has a right to defend herself. Sorry terrorists hide behind their own children. All human life is valuable.

Pretty sure there were no terrorists in that school. If that wasn’t the case let me know and I’m happy to rethink my comment to an extent.

> this is not about Trump

It has everything to do with Trump. It is his administration. It is his military dropping those bombs. It’s literally his job.

We’re just going to give him credit for taking out Iran’s leadership but not hold him accountable when we bomb children going to school?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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"good people on both sides"

The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”. So what exactly is the problem with saying both bombing school children and machine gunning protestors is bad? Be specific.

>The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”.

That was fake news, never happened. You've been duped by Russian and Iranian propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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How about you make an app about "winning" that involves flying a cargo plane loaded with so much cash to Iranian Islamists that it struggles to stay aloft. Because that was the strategy before Trump and it led to terror tunnels, terror proxies, and weapons grade nuclear enrichment. Edit: For the record this actually happened 10 years ago under Obama. https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-... > W…

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Account made 53 days ago with sole interests being defending Palantir and Israel/US war. I love how highly organic and genuine the discussion of certain topics is here on HN.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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The messaging obviously. What isn't?

Now’s a good time to step away from this comment section. It seems to really be getting to you. It’s a satirical game, not representative of everyone’s (or anyone’s) full thoughts or feelings on the matter.

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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What part of "doing the right thing" is bombing an all girls school?

Okay, let's compare. How many iranians has the regime killed over the last few months. They've said they would continue indiscriminately killing as long as it took, the regime would literally destroy Iran rather than let go of their dreams of Muslim empire. They killed tens of thousands of people. Every persian person i know or have even heard about had been highly supportive of the war, with the singular goal of rep…

I guess if someone else is killing innocent people it makes it fine for us to kill innocent people too.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

I think that if you start an unjustified war of agression against a country and you kill 150 children, you should be held responsible

Held responsible by whom? Certainly not you.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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We’ve seen with Palestine that human suffering, unfortunately, does not motivate Americans like gas prices do. So it’s not a reflection of my priorities so much as something to point to to get people to stop supporting Trump’s policies. At the end of the day, we have heard the same thing for a decade. Ignore his tone, ignore his words, ignore this or that policy, because the economy is/is going to be great. When the…

> human suffering, unfortunately, does not motivate Americans like gas prices do.

Absolutely right. It also makes sense most people will care about something tangible like gas prices than the lives of other people half way across the world.

But this doesn't mean that half way across the world there isn't something truly urgent that needs dealing with.

I honestly don't know what will come of this war but I do know with a fair bit or certainty that a nuclear Iran would have caused the US far more damage than a few weeks of higher gas prices, and they wouldn't even need to use it.

But to truly and fully understand this people need to put a real effort and research the region.

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