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Post by abdelhousni »

gizajob wrote: post #69
cardanome wrote: post #22

Accusing Iran of "lashing out" and being "reckless" by attacking US bases while the US and Israel literally murder school children, bomb hospitals and assassinate state leaders is rich. It didn't have to be this way but they decided this to turn into a fight of survival for Iran and destroy any option for a peaceful resolution. Now they are going to pay the price.

I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

There are only two countries capable of killing civilians by the ten thousands and the world knows them. In fact they're currently bombing Iran and the region, one of them is currently perpetrating a genocide with approval of the day called civilized world. No cameras or international press covering the massacre of Gaza.

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Post by marcosdumay »

arbuge wrote: post #131
einszwei wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

They did however murder thousands of protesters in their own streets in January, and who knows how much more dissidents over the years. This one was just this week: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-execution-teen-wrestler-ja... So there's that.

And that gives US people the right to go there and murder a few thousand extra people?

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Post by alephnerd »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #139
carbocation wrote: post #2

The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?

US intelligence had assessed that this was possible a long time ago. It was one of the motivations behind the installation of long-range missile defense capabilities in Poland and Czechia in the late 2000s. Obama killed that program to appease Russia. Of course, there is a significant gap between Iran possessing the capability, having the temperament to use it, and actually doing so.

> It was one of the motivations behind the installation of long-range missile defense capabilities in Poland and Czechia in the late 2000s. Obama killed that program to appease Russia

This was sidestepped by allowing the Poland-SK defense partnership to kick off in 2013 [0] which was further entrenched in 2022 [1], and itself acted as a message against North Korea for acting in a similar manner with Iran [2]

[0] - https://www.president.pl/archives/bronislaw-komorowski/news/...

[1] - https://www.irsem.fr/storage/file_manager_files/2025/03/nr-i...

[2] - https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/middleeast/29missil...

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Post by surgical_fire »

leereeves wrote: post #345
surgical_fire wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Iranian government is bad, and yes, it should be toppled, eventually, by its own people . This doesn't change the fact that Iran is the aggressed party in an invasion of an incredibly aggressive US-Israel axis that seem to revel in death. You can hate the Iranian murderous regime, and also understand that it is fighting against another evil, murderous regime.

> The Iranian government is bad, and yes, it should be toppled, eventually, by its own people. You would prefer to tell people in Iran who oppose the regime to take up arms (which they don't have) and fight IRGC soldiers with better training and more resources? Best case, if they did, Iran would end up in a situation like Syria. Would that be an improvement? More likely, it would simply be a massacre.

What I can tell you is that no matter how much I hate the government of my country, I would hate a lot more the foreign country that is destroying civilian infrastructure and murdering my people.

Let's not pretend that the US and Israel regimes have the best interest of the Iranian people in mind. They want murder.

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Post by chasd00 »

hirako2000 wrote: post #255
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we have leaders who actively believed the downplaying of Irans military capabilities Iran has done precisely nothing unexpected in the entire course of this war. Closing Hormuz has been mooted since the 70s. And its IRBM stockpile has been known. This is more a case of something between political leaders and possibly the media being ignorant of even open-source intelligence.

I thought the US president said they didn't expect a number of things that happened. It also expected a quick intervention, 2 weeks max.

To be fair Trump admins most optimistic timeline was “4-6 weeks maybe longer”. We’re at the end of week 3.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

thunky wrote: post #304
CamperBob2 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is at least 30-40% of the population who support it and within those, more than half will gladly die for the regime. Sobering, and (speaking as an American) all too familiar here at home. Cults suck.

Unless you're talking about the US military you're wrong here. MAGA is not willing to sacrifice anything. It's a bully mindset and bullies take, they don't give.

MAGA is not willing to sacrifice anything.

They're willing to sacrifice the rest of us, just like the mullahs. As long as other people are hurting more, MAGA is happy to sacrifice whatever is asked of them.

It's a literal cult. To understand that, all you have to do is imagine a Biden, an Obama, or a Harris saying and doing the things Trump has said and done in the last 30 days alone. "Some of you may die, and gas prices may go up for a while, but that's a chance I'm willing to take. Oh, also, Imma need 'bout $200 billion, kthx."

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Post by Hikikomori »

jopsen wrote: post #122
bdangubic wrote: post #85

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that would be stupid and their regime is not stupid

Do you think launching a dumb ICBM at New York would make the US put boots on the ground. I kind of doubt it's enough. This wouldn't be another 9/11, it would be merely be retaliation.

9/11 was retaliation for US imperialism.

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Post by Devasta »

anvuong wrote: post #23
cardanome wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is fighting for survival, Israel and the US are fighting by choice. They attacked Iran not the other way round. US bases, even if also used by UK which aides US it their war, are legitimate targets. US imperialism is the greatest threat to the world.

The IRGC is fighting for survival, most Iranian want them gone, and Iran will be better as a whole if the IRGC is all dead. Don't try to conflate the government with the country, they don't always align.

You are absolutely deluded if you think the removal of the IRGC will result in any improvement in the situation of the Iranian people. The US and Israel want to bomb he place into a lawless wasteland, even if a secular democracy was to arise it would make no difference.

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Post by leereeves »

surgical_fire wrote: post #354
leereeves wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Iranian government is bad, and yes, it should be toppled, eventually, by its own people. You would prefer to tell people in Iran who oppose the regime to take up arms (which they don't have) and fight IRGC soldiers with better training and more resources? Best case, if they did, Iran would end up in a situation like Syria. Would that be an improvement? More likely, it would simply be a massacre.

What I can tell you is that no matter how much I hate the government of my country, I would hate a lot more the foreign country that is destroying civilian infrastructure and murdering my people. Let's not pretend that the US and Israel regimes have the best interest of the Iranian people in mind. They want murder.

I really can't say how this is being received in or out of Iran, but I remember after the initial strikes there was widespread footage of Iranian exiles celebrating, even on anti-Trump media.

Edit: and even people celebrating in Iran itself, which seems incredibly brave.

"videos posted on social media showed joy and defiance elsewhere, with people cheering as a statue was toppled in the city of Dehloran in Ilam province, dancing in the streets of Karaj city, near Tehran in Alborz province, and celebrating in the streets of Izeh in Khuzestan province. In the town of Galleh Dar in southern Iran, people knocked down a monument commemorating Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who founded the Islamic Republic in 1979, a video on social media showed."

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/polarised-ira...

Even The Guardian, as anti-Trump as a source can be, reported that "videos shared widely on social media also showed people celebrating, dancing, honking car horns and setting off fireworks as news of the leader’s death broke."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/01/celebration-or...

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Post by [deleted] »

watwut wrote: post #159
cardanome wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people that protested against the government in January are now marching in support of the Islamic Republic and demand that the imperialists are punished. Most of them have protested for economic reasons, they don't want to see their country destroyed and their children murdered by bombs. Iran is more united than ever because of the imperialist war. That is what you get when you turn state leaders into martyrs.

That sounds made up. Marches largely stopped after bombings, no one marches for IRGC - not even supporters. And there is no way for anyone to know what Iranians actually think now. No one does the polls there now.

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