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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by edstarch »

rolandhvar wrote: post #305
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #269

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Windows is not technically inferior to Linux. To the extent it has problems, it is mainly because of top-down anti-user behaviour mandated from corporate. But anyone capable of using Linux is capable of hacking out that BS and getting a generally superior experience. I use both literally side-by-side, two laptops with a KVM switch, and I still greatly prefer Windows for many reasons. Some reasons: Even as a low-level…

+1 on the UI thing. I don't know what it is, but UI on Linux always feels too disjoint from the rest of the system. It's a bit like how Windows 3.11 was just UI-on-DOS. I get the same feeling. Don't get me wrong - I love Linux for all its CLI use but for some reason I've never been able to primary drive it without going insane after a week. Windows just seems to feel more put-together and I guess that's because the k…

Windows UI is the most disjoint though, with designs accumulated over the past 20 years still kicking in various places.

You really should, yeah. I've given up Linux as a daily driver in favor of a MacBook but I do have a work mandated Windows machine and I hate that thing with a passion. I cannot think of a single thing that's better on it than on my MacBook or any Linux distro I've ran as a daily driver.

In fact, most of the time I want to do any tasks which are not directly Teams or MS office related I find it easier to just use WSL.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #297
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #217

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> and its superficial superiority only comes from the ecosystem So the only superiority is that it runs the apps most people want to run? And this is why geeks are always the “Less space than Nomad. No Wireless. Lame” types or the HN equivalent when talking about DropBox: “For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and…

But it still was lame and ultimately made the world a worse place; and mounting remote storage is convenient and often preferable to something like Dropbox for several reasons. The fact that these aren't what matters for gaining wide popularity doesn't make such statements false.

In all fairness, he did later have this comment

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27070138

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by kuerbel »

LambdaComplex wrote: post #290
dmos62 wrote: post #195

I'm somewhat surprised that Windows is still most of personal computers. In my eyes, it's fundamentally inferior to Linux, and its superficial superiority only comes from the ecosystem, which is to say adoption, not some inherent trait. But then, since Linux adoption didn't meaningfully change in the last 20 years, I'm forced to confront the fact that either I'm wrong about its fundamentals, or the market is able to…

Enterprises love Windows for the ability to centrally manage an entire fleet's configuration using Active Directory. Is there anything for Linux that comes close to that?

Univention Corporate Server.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by philistine »

timpera wrote: post #139
nickburns wrote: post #75

Lifelong user and 11-year Insider Program participant (i.e., since the literal start of the program). Just this past January I implemented something on my workstation I should've done a long time ago: outbound filtering all network traffic via so-called 'Windows Defender Firewall with Advanced Security'. I've also skipped more Insider builds in the past two months than I have in the past 11 years. The only thing keep…

Yeah, window snapping is great. I can't believe Apple still hasn't copied this feature.

Huh, they have! For the last two years!

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/12/macos-sequoia-window-ti...

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by kube-system »

nomel wrote: post #283
kube-system wrote: post #262

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Normal people buy computers at a retail store and use it in the factory configuration indefinitely. They think about changing their OS in the same way you think about changing the type of hem stitching on your slacks.

> They think about changing their OS in the same way you think about changing the type of hem stitching on your slacks. This is just absolutely beautiful . My grandmother would often identify stitching on my slacks. I was, quite literally, blind to it!

The world is a big place and while Linux is very visible to many of us it is irrelevant to the mindshare of the vast majority of the world. Not because of ignorance, but because it legitimately isn't that important to their life.

I don't care about the hem on my pants. My pants either work, or I get a new pair. This is most people's relationship with their computer.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by seba_dos1 »

sonofhans wrote: post #327
seba_dos1 wrote: post #297

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But it still was lame and ultimately made the world a worse place; and mounting remote storage is convenient and often preferable to something like Dropbox for several reasons. The fact that these aren't what matters for gaining wide popularity doesn't make such statements false.

The iPod made the world a worse place? I’m skeptical; I see very little bad about iPods. Do you think the quote what about the iPhone?

iPods are the main thing that allowed iPhone (the bigger brother of iPod Touch) to be successful. I'm reasonably convinced that without the iPod craze, Apple's phone wouldn't make such a big market impact, if they would release it at all.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by mattstir »

zug_zug wrote: post #207

Whatever, I'm just counting the time until I can drop windows entirely... right now I just need it for gaming, but I'm thinking maybe Valve's OS will be the replacement

I can't guarantee a great experience, but anecdotally my brother and I have had no issues in the last ~12 months playing all types of games on Linux. Only games which require kernel-level anti-cheat are unavailable. Otherwise, Proton and native clients (when available) have been rock solid, and I've been surprised that some games (like Minecraft) actually run much better than in Windows.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by timpera »

philistine wrote: post #355
timpera wrote: post #139

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Yeah, window snapping is great. I can't believe Apple still hasn't copied this feature.

Huh, they have! For the last two years! https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/12/macos-sequoia-window-ti...

You're right, but it's nowhere near as polished or powerful as W11's window management. You can get there with Rectangle or Raycast though.
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