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Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by onetwothreefour »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #251

This stuff is blowing my mind. On every single spec, Nexus exceeds the iDevice equivalent. The Nexus 4 has two NFC radios, a higher res screen, is thinner and lighter and is less than half of the price of the iPhone 5. (edit: That's unfair, I forget about LTE, though I understand why Google skipped that) Similar things hold for the Nexus 10. Am I the only one really surprised? (This is of course not to mention the nu…

You're only surprised because you're comparing a spec sheet to another spec sheet. And it's not thinner and lighter. And you don't know if the screen is actually going to look better. And it doesn't have LTE (no matter what the excuse).

Additionally, the Nexus 10 is massive, is ugly as hell, runs Android and thus has like 10 apps designed for a Android tablet.

I own every Nexus device in existence and every iOS device, so that's where I'm coming from. The Nexus 7 was a waste of money.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by Bjartr »

aw3c2 wrote: post #334
w1ntermute wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And just $399 for the 16 GB version!

As I understand it in the US the taxes are added after the displayed price, how much would that be in the end? In Europe it seems to cost €399 which is 30% more!

It depends on which state you're in I believe.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by ionforce »

jawngee wrote: post #319
netcan wrote: post #190

This is a test period for the post Jobs Apple. Apple has a loyal mac user base willing to pay an Apple premium. A business that won't just disappear overnight. They had a good head start on iphones. Combined with the obscure phone prices on plans, Apple can easily get their premium here. The tablet market they pretty much had to themselves. Now Android really is mature. Great devices at great prices that compete with…

Android still has a long way to go. I have the Nexus 7 (I should divulge I am an iOS/Cocoa developer) and I kind of like it, but it still has a cheap usability feel to it. The parallax is pretty obvious which translates into issues like laggy typing and occasional awkward pauses. The select/copy/paste is just bizarre. Video playback is crappy. Android is to Toyota what Apple is to Mercedes. They both essentially do t…

What is parallax, in the context of the Nexus?

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by onetwothreefour »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #261
codeulike wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing its more like battery and target-cost limitations edit: and the carrier thing as discussed in The Verge

Anyone who's been paying any attention knows this is no conspiracy, Google is not happy with Verizon AT ALL. Wallet/ISIS is only a small component of that. Painting this is something else is just inaccurate.

You are utterly delusional my friend. This is laziness.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by ssmoot »

w1ntermute wrote: post #232
lnanek2 wrote: post #226

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Definitely not my experience. I'm sitting miles away from Walnut Creek, a town i the East Bay, and I have LTE on AT&T. I certainly have it anywhere closer to civilization, like SF itself or NYC. I wouldn't call AT&T coverage limited at all.

Well, your anecdotal data doesn't line up with the facts. There's a Verge article from a month ago[0] that contains LTE coverage information for Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint. There's simply no comparison - Verizon is leaps and bounds ahead of AT&T. Just because you have AT&T LTE in your neck of the woods doesn't mean that the vast majority of Americans do. 0: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/21/3367602/iphone-5-lte-marke.…

That's a pretty useless chart. It appears to be just charting carrier claims.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but yeah, the chart is flawed. Dallas, TX shows Sprint for example, but Sprint's LTE in Dallas is notoriously bad. As in, many people never see it, and I've never seen one single person claim to get it regularly. I think I've seen it mentioned that the maps are "4 to 5 year" projections, but today's actual coverage is something like 4% of DFW.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by [deleted] »

ajross wrote: post #348
jawngee wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android still has a long way to go. I have the Nexus 7 (I should divulge I am an iOS/Cocoa developer) and I kind of like it, but it still has a cheap usability feel to it. The parallax is pretty obvious which translates into issues like laggy typing and occasional awkward pauses. The select/copy/paste is just bizarre. Video playback is crappy. Android is to Toyota what Apple is to Mercedes. They both essentially do t…

The qualitative arguments are valid enough, and I won't try to dispute them except to point out that most of what you argue is lets-just-say-controversial and not uniformly agreed upon. But the car analogy is just bad. Mercedes sells cars into different markets with different feature sets than Toyota. People don't buy a Camry expecting it to accelerate like a E350. And the "polish" features are things like Leather Se…

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Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by netcan »

ajross wrote: post #348
jawngee wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android still has a long way to go. I have the Nexus 7 (I should divulge I am an iOS/Cocoa developer) and I kind of like it, but it still has a cheap usability feel to it. The parallax is pretty obvious which translates into issues like laggy typing and occasional awkward pauses. The select/copy/paste is just bizarre. Video playback is crappy. Android is to Toyota what Apple is to Mercedes. They both essentially do t…

The qualitative arguments are valid enough, and I won't try to dispute them except to point out that most of what you argue is lets-just-say-controversial and not uniformly agreed upon. But the car analogy is just bad. Mercedes sells cars into different markets with different feature sets than Toyota. People don't buy a Camry expecting it to accelerate like a E350. And the "polish" features are things like Leather Se…

I agree that the analogy is wrong: Apple & Google are competing head-2-head, Toyota & Mercedes generally don't.

But it's interesting to think about why. It's typical that as market categories mature, we get segmentation. Start with the model T, eventually you have luxury SUVs, sportscars, minivans, large sedans, smarcars....

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by code_duck »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #132
arrrg wrote: post #91

Arrrgh! That Nexus 4 looks delicious, absolutely awesome. But why does it have to be such a monster! With their flagship product, can't they shoot for a happy middle ground and not for monster sizes?

With their new naming convention, it seems to me that there's a very nice slot for a "Nexus 3". Hopefully such a device wouldn't feature inferior specs like the s3 mini.

Alas, the iPad Mini is definitely inferior to the full size, as well. It's more like an iPod Touch 5 Maxi.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by RShiki »

mtgx wrote: post #227
mtgx wrote: post #77

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And with that crazy resolution.

@merrit - Because it has not been a focus of laptop manufacturers. Instead the focus has been faster CPU's or bigger hard drives. Going premium on the display, means you have to cut on something else to deliver the laptop at the same, and I don't think Intel is going to cut on their CPU prices anytime soon. In some laptops, Intel's chips take up to 40% of the BOM price. That leaves little wiggle room for experimentin…

Laptops have gotten nicer but it's still rather hard to find a 19" desktop monitor with a nice DPI.
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