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Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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How so?

Because the Church didn't even have a good theological reason for siding against Galileo. It was a fit of pique. But people have so completely internalized the idea that truth must bow to power that they think the fact that the Church condemned Galileo's ideas because he was rude somehow exonerates it as an institution.

The patron and professor funds a paper, and it contains claims of proofs that don't exist and ad hominems against the patron. The patron then sabotages the author. Sure, not very professional by the patron, but still understandable.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

Best to skip the priest and feed context directly

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Every single person who utilizes a navigation application to traverse a place that they have no previous independently verified experience, is taking existential risk based on a computer telling them what to do There are literally thousands of cases of people dying or being injured because they did what a computer navigation application told them to do This is also literally what the Target stock scheduling system do…

That’s fundamentally different, and I think you know that. It’s one thing to ask an algorithm how to build an A* driving map from point A to point B. It’s another to ask one how to be a better person and go to Heaven. I’m not religious, and I’m not arguing this from a pro-religion POV. I happily work in AI, and I’m not arguing this from an anti-AI POV. I am highly technical. I love computers. I’m excited about the fu…

3/4-agree; LLM advice is only one step up from an Agony Aunt column in a newspaper.

And I'd expect "Target stock scheduling system does for target employees for restocking shelves" to be an A* or similar.

But also, Google maps has directed people to their deaths: https://gizmodo.com/three-men-die-after-google-maps-reported... isn't even what I was originally looking for, which was: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-sued-negligence-maps-dri...

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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I assume this was intended as a joke, even if it is one that doesn’t land? Because it’s not clear what this could mean otherwise.

99% of the jokes I've made throughout my life don't land. For better or worse, if I find something amusing I impulsively share it. In this case, I thought it should be obvious that OP must have faith in priests, given that they're Catholic, which requires faith as a prereq. If you read my comment as a slight against Catholicism, I can understand, but I wouldn't feel comfortable publicly joking about any religion othe…

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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How are you dealing with the Pope saying priests shouldn’t use your product?

I agree with the Pope’s point. Priests should not hand pastoral judgment to a model. BibleGuided has church management tools plus optional AI help for drafting and organizing, with the priest making the final call. For community context, we avoid confessional and private pastoral data. It is opt-in from congregants, then aggregated and anonymized into themes and trends. We think AI can be a helpful tool across many a…

The pope, ostensibly the person you believe to be the representative of god on earth, has said that your product is garbage and here you are rationalizing it.

Are you sure you have faith?

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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My old-school protestant pastor started with an AI disclaimer in the sermon yesterday. What a time to be alive! I don't know what to do with my double standard here. It seems totally normal and expected that I would outsource aspects of my job solving business software problems to AI, but the idea of my spirituality and cultural experience (music, movies, art, etc) being someone else's business problem to be outsourc…

Talk about a self-aware wolves moment. Why is your use of AI okay but theirs isn't?

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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American religions are supposed to stay out of politics, or they risk their tax-exempt status. For me, the disturbing event was shortly before the 2016 event when a Catholic Church in Lowell MA had posters urging people to vote no on marijuana legalization. (In my case, I smelt the politization when I was a teenager so I never continued being Catholic as an adult.)

The separation of church and state in the US was for the state to stay out of religion. (the US was founded by religious exiles from a state which didn't stay out) Religions are explicitly political but politics shouldn't interfere with religions. To follow your religion means interacting with the outside world. It's not some personally private thing like a harmless badge you wear (although there are American faith c…

From the horse's mouth:

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/charities-churches-and-politics

> In 1954, Congress approved an amendment by Sen. Lyndon Johnson to prohibit 501(c)(3) organizations, which includes charities and churches, from engaging in any political campaign activity. To the extent Congress has revisited the ban over the years, it has in fact strengthened the ban. The most recent change came in 1987 when Congress amended the language to clarify that the prohibition also applies to statements opposing candidates.

> Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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My old-school protestant pastor started with an AI disclaimer in the sermon yesterday. What a time to be alive! I don't know what to do with my double standard here. It seems totally normal and expected that I would outsource aspects of my job solving business software problems to AI, but the idea of my spirituality and cultural experience (music, movies, art, etc) being someone else's business problem to be outsourc…

Talk about a self-aware wolves moment. Why is your use of AI okay but theirs isn't?

That’s exactly the question OP is asking.
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