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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#351

With OpenClaw we are seeing how the app layer becomes as important as the model layer. You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

There’s actually many UI’s now? See moltis, rowboat, and various others that are popping up daily

Are there any with a credible approach to security, privacy and prompt injections?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#352

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openclaw is just one of many now, there are new ones weekly.

Plus you can get the model to write you a bespoke one that suits your needs.

I've been digging into how Heartbeat works in Openclaw to bring directly into Vibetunnel, another of Peter's projects

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #342

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> 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worried about being directly liable for all the harms OpenClaw can do. This is a great t…

He's also a great booster of Codex. Says he greatly prefers it to Claude. So his role might turn out to be evanglism.

Yup, hes highly delusional if he actually thinks Sam cares about him and the project. Its all about optics.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #201

Just like the original OpenAI story, this seems like a case of reputation hacking through asymmetry in risk tolerance. There is not much novel about OpenClaw. Anybody could have thought of this or done it. The reason people have not released an agent that would run by itself, edit its own code and be exposed to the internet is not that it's hard or novel - it's because it is an utterly reckless thing to do. No respon…

> Anybody could have thought of this or done it

To be fair, when used in retrospect, this applies to just about any big tech company

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worried about being directly liable for all the harms OpenClaw can do. This is a great t…

Thats all it is really. It is to say "See! Look what a handful of people armed with our tools can do".

Whether the impact is large in magnitude or positive is irrelevant in a world where one can spin the truth and get away with it.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> This buy out for something vibe coded I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI. There are two sentences at the top that sum it up: > I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent. OpenClaw was no…

Fair enough. Call it a high profile acquihire then

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

#357

With OpenClaw we are seeing how the app layer becomes as important as the model layer. You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

> You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

It’s only been a couple months. I guarantee people will be switching apps as others become the new hot thing.

We saw the same claims when Cursor was popular. Same claims when Claude Code was the current topic. Users are changing their app layer all the time and trying new things.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #309

OpenClaw is literally the most poorly conceived and insecure AI software anyone has ever made. Its users have had OpenClaw spend thousands of dollars, and do various unwanted and irreversible things. This fucking guy will fit right in at OpenAI.

I would be inclined to believe you if you mentioned a single open-source agent that does more than OC. Just one.

Has it occurred to you that the fact that OpenClaw can do so much is exactly why it is problematic from a security point of view.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

There’s plenty of straightforward reasons why OpenAI would want to do this, it doesn’t need to be some sort of malicious conspiracy.

I think it’s good PR (particularly since Anthropics actions against OpenCode and Clawdbot were somewhat controversial) + Peter was able to build a hugely popular thing & clearly would be valuable to have on the team building something along the lines of Claude Cowork. I would expect these future products to be much stronger from a security standpoint.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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? We saw this years/months ago with Claude Code and Cursor.

But it just codes. And are console / ide tools. Openclaw is so so so much more.

That’s missing the point. OpenClaw is just one of many apps in its class. It, too, will fall out of favor as the next big thing arrives.
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