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Re: Rivian R2: Electric Mid-Size SUV

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As a European: nice, but why is it so BIG? How is that monster called "mid-size"? Why would one want to haul so many tons of extra metal around just to transport one's behind?

when every car around you is even bigger than this, you’ll appreciate not driving a minuscule car in america. it is terrifying

Sorry but 40 tons trucks have been around for decades in Europe and people drove small cars. Its car marketing, group think and FUD.

Re: Rivian R2: Electric Mid-Size SUV

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I’ve had software issues on an ID4 and iX, but I’ve never had reliability problems. The cars always have just worked with no maintenance. Same with my model Y, minus any issues!

Maybe it’s a “but when it happens you’re screwed” situation. I’m thinking of the story of BMW’s battery safety fuse (the one that trips in an accident to protect first responders and the people in the car) actually tripping when you hot the curb or a pothole harder. It requires a very expensive trip to the dealer. Some of my Tesla owning friends keep spending time in the shop getting something about the suspension fi…

Volvo has had absolutely terrible software since Geely acquired them. I own a Volvo and like the brand, I still think the cars are beautiful and the engineering outside of the software is pretty good, but the software is an embarrassment. It's just so bad. Shockingly bad. The worst of all the automakers by far. I'm worried it will sink the brand, and am not looking forward to owning a car made by a defunct automaker. I hope Volvo cleans house in the software department.

Re: Rivian R2: Electric Mid-Size SUV

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European registered cars. The RAV4 PHEV is a popular car in Europe so is assuredly well represented in this data set of 800,000 phevs.

It's an interesting article - thanks for sharing! The original report is worth reading too. [1] I agree with the premise. The "utility factor" used to estimate fuel efficiency for PHEVs does not line up with real-world data, which effectively creates a loophole to avoid emissions regulations and keep selling gas guzzlers. This is a problem, and should be fixed. In regards to which cars are most to blame: > Volkswagen…

I know this is an old thread, but a new study just came out [1]. 300% overestimated utility factor. It underscores my point that the category of PHEVs is largely a scam to cheat emissions regs.

However! It somewhat undermines my argument about the rav4, as it seems Toyotas are indeed the most charged / highest UF phevs.

Still drastically overestimated, just the least bad.

1 https://electrek.co/2026/02/19/biggest-study-yet-shows-plug-...

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