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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by 3acctforcom »

Nevermark wrote: post #308
moomin wrote: post #300

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There’s got to be solid reasons why they do this and have done so for so damn long. At the very least institutional reasons. At best, actual research that suggests they make more money this way. But as a consumer, I hate it.

Perhaps the "consistent" naming helps them shove more through the Enterprise door. If a large company has bought into "Co-Pilot", they want it all right? Or not, but let's not make carving anything out easy. Just a thought.

This is actually one of their smart decisions. "Copilot" is currently going through the corporate regulators, who know nothing about technology, but I can't buy it until they say everything is Legal.

So once we have signoff then my counterpart in Sharepoint/M365 land gets his "Copilot" for Office, while my reporting and analytics group gets "Copilot" for Power BI, while my coding team gets "Copilot" for llm assisted development in GitHub.

In the meantime everybody just plugs everything into ChatGPT and everybody pretends it isn't happening. It's not unlawful if they lawyers can't see it!

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by bigfishrunning »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #106
vv_ wrote: post #66

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On what reasoning do you make this prediction? Just because corporations are mandating their employees to use AI right now does not mean it will continue.

Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment. Moving forward, eventually all developers use these tools routinely. There will be a point in the future where there is no one left working that has ever coded anything complex thing from scratch without AI tools. Therefore, all* code will have AI code-gen as all*…

So eventually, doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? The pendulum will have to swing the other way eventually; seems like microsoft is just accelerating that process

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by ddtaylor »

I think Copilot is a platform or marketplace more than anything an Microsoft doesn't really need to care about what models are being used. They don't need to have a secret sauce as much as they need to make the entire ecosystem easy to use. They have had a lot of success over the years with VSC and this seems to build on that.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by bigfishrunning »

kavalg wrote: post #112
rkozik1989 wrote: post #99

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That's still writing new code. Also, its kind of an extremely bad idea to do that because how are you going to test it? If you have to rewrite anything (hint: you probably don't) its best to do it incrementally over time because of the QA and stakeholder alignment overhead. You cannot push things into production unless it works as its users are expecting and it does exactly what stakeholders expect as well.

If it is Windows, then you and I are going to test it :)

Maybe you will; i won't

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by major505 »

I think is funny, because is not the first time I hear about microsoft employees not using the company products.

I worked on a project with some microsoft engineers to create a chatbot plugin for Salesforce, using Microsoft Power Virtual Agent, and the comunication tool they used was Slack and not teams. And I was obligated to use teams because of the consuting company I worked at the time.

And also the version control they used at the time was I think SVN, and not TFS.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by gosub100 »

anal_reactor wrote: post #201
pixl97 wrote: post #134

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>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

I'm "I don't know what Xbox is" years old.

It's the successor to IXBox

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by 3acctforcom »

mirekrusin wrote: post #186
timr wrote: post #144

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> There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. I understand your point about naming, but it's always helpful to know what the products do.

...it gets better: GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot . GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc. GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCo…

You want a mess?

Put together a nice and clean price list for your friends in the purchasing department.

I dare you.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by major505 »

kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

This is what happens when you let all decision to the marketing team without any supervision. They became full retarded.

Marketing need as much supervision as a toddler in a cristal store.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by anonymars »

stackghost wrote: post #330
anonymars wrote: post #315

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Ha, I stand corrected. Maybe Microsoft could reach out to the owners of LinkedIn to convince them to improve it. Oh, wait...

>LinkedIn You mean Microsoft Career Copilot 365?

Shh, they'll hear you!
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