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Re: Prism

#352

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

I still can't get over the Apple thing. Haven't enjoyed a ripe McIntosh since.

Re: Prism

#353

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

This comment might make more sense if there was some connection or similarity between the OpenAI "Prism" product and the NSA surveillance program. There doesn't appear to be.

Except that this lets OpenAI gain research data and scientific ideas by stealing from their users, using their huge mass surveillance platform. So, tremendous overlap.

Re: Prism

#354
Slightly off-topic but related: currently I'm in a research environment (biomedicine) where a lot of AI is used. Sometimes well, often poorly. So as an exercise I drafted some rules and commitments about AI and research ("Research After AI: Principles for Accelerated Exploration" [1]), I took the Agile manifesto as a starting point. Anyways, this might be interesting as a perspective on the problem space as I see it.

[1] https://gist.github.com/joelkuiper/d52cc0e5ff06d12c85e492e42...

Re: Prism

#355
I'm really surprised OpenAI went with LaTeX. ChatGPT still has issues maintaining LaTeX syntax. It still happily switches to markdown notation for quotes or emph. Gemini has a similar problem as well. I guess that there aren't enough good LaTeX documents in the training set.

Re: Prism

#356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment might make more sense if there was some connection or similarity between the OpenAI "Prism" product and the NSA surveillance program. There doesn't appear to be.

Except that this lets OpenAI gain research data and scientific ideas by stealing from their users, using their huge mass surveillance platform. So, tremendous overlap.

This comment allows ycombinator to steal ideas from their user's comments, using their huge mass news platform. Temendous overlap indeed.

Re: Prism

#357
post #24

The quality and usefulness of it aside, the primary question is: are they still collecting chats for training data? If so, it limits how comfortable, and sometimes even permitted, people would with working on their yet-to-be-public work using this tool.

They don't call it PRISM for nothing my friend...

The collect chat records for any number of users, not the least of which being NSA surveillance and analysis - highly likely given what we know from the Snowden leaks.

Re: Prism

#358

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

>Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust?

Have you ever seen the comment section of a Snowden thread here? A lot of users here call for Snowden to be jailed, call him a russian asset, play down the reports etc. These are either NSA sock puppet accounts or they won't bite the hand that feeds them (employees of companies willing to breach their users trust).

Edit: see my comment here in a snowden thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46237098

Re: Prism

#359
post #330

This is going to be the concrete block which finally breaks the back of the academic peer review system, i.e. it's going to be a DDoS attack on a system which didn't even handle the load before LLMs. Maybe we'll need to go back to some sort of proof-of-work system, i.e. only accepting physical mailed copies of manuscripts, possibly hand-written...

> This is going to be the concrete block which finally breaks the back of the academic peer review system

Exactly, and I think this is good news. Let's break it so we can fix at last. Nothing will happen until a real crisis emerges.

Re: Prism

#360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment might make more sense if there was some connection or similarity between the OpenAI "Prism" product and the NSA surveillance program. There doesn't appear to be.

Except that this lets OpenAI gain research data and scientific ideas by stealing from their users, using their huge mass surveillance platform. So, tremendous overlap.

Isn't most research and scientific data is already shared openly (in publications usually)?
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