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Floppy disks turn out to be the greatest TV remote for kids

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Re: Floppy disks turn out to be the greatest TV remote for kids

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Post by dustypotato »

tantalor wrote: post #24
tete wrote: post #3

> Modern TVs are very poorly suited for kids. They require using complicated remotes or mobile phones, and navigating apps that continually try to lure you into watching something else than you intended to. I'd argue that's not too different for grown-ups. ;)

My biggest gripe is how terribly slow it is to navigate UI on a TV. The latency between user input and the UI responding can be upwards of 10-20 seconds. Just incredibly user hostile.

I uninstalled google launcher and shitty Xiaomi apps in my Mi TV stick using ADB and switched to F-Launcher. Can't be happier with the performance.

Re: Floppy disks turn out to be the greatest TV remote for kids

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Post by nashashmi »

01100011 wrote: post #273
peteey wrote: post #126

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Generally agreed. Though, Daniel Tiger and Paw Patrol should be judged differently. Paw Patrol is mindless and addictive. If you desperately need a distraction, PBS shows are less bad. A few moments of pacification may be worth not disturbing the other airline travelers. Daniel Tiger may be helpful to parents too. Interacting with children is not intuitive. Techniques from PBS shows have helped me. For example, singi…

Some commenters either: 1. Do not have children. 2. Have a strong support network. 3. Have their partner or professional handle most aspects of child raising and have a warped understanding of dealing with a precocious and active toddler. It's great that some folks have kids that like books and keep themselves busy. It's not so great that their parents think that is the reality most parents enjoy.

A tv is like a pacifier. It ruins the parent’s ability to connect with their kids.

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Post by lostlogin »

jliptzin wrote: post #245
brabel wrote: post #203

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I had a 75-inch TV I inherited, it was on the higher end and the TV UI was supper snappy. Then, I broke it accidentally and got only 1/4 of the money from insurance. Because I barely watch TV, I thought I would just buy a TV of the same size, but on the lower end... both TVs were Samsung anyway. What a huge difference. The image quality is a little worse, barely noticeable after you get used to it. But the UI is agon…

Plug a new chromecast into one of the HDMI ports and use that and only that and weld the setting shut so that you never have to deal with the TV’s default UI ever again.

I advocate for AppleTV but the principle is similar.

Which of the two devices/companies is getting enshittified quicker?

The chromecast is much cheaper, so that’s a straight win.

Re: Floppy disks turn out to be the greatest TV remote for kids

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Post by lostlogin »

tete wrote: post #3

> Modern TVs are very poorly suited for kids. They require using complicated remotes or mobile phones, and navigating apps that continually try to lure you into watching something else than you intended to. I'd argue that's not too different for grown-ups. ;)

> I'd argue that's not too different for grown-ups. ;)

The ‘tv remote as a cursor’ is rage inducing.

The AppleTV remote (current, not previous gen) is the least bad system I’ve come across.

Re: Floppy disks turn out to be the greatest TV remote for kids

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Post by nashashmi »

p2detar wrote: post #346
rspoerri wrote: post #72

My 3 year old watched TV for the first time for 2 minutes in her life (it was hard hiding it from her in an airplane on an overhead screen) and I can tell that TV is generally bad for kids at that age.

In some European countries like Germany, there are recommendations by institutions like the Federal Center for the "Protection of Children and Young People from Harmful Media (BzKJ)" about TV time or screen time in general [0]: - 0 to 3 years: Ideally, no screen time at all. If media is used, then only in very short intervals and not every day. - 4 to 5 years: Up to half an hour of screen time per day. - 6 to 9 years…

I would watch up to two hours of tv a day right after school. TV time was up to 5 o clock. Earlier ages had school close at 3:30. Later ages had school close at 2:30. It was a good stress buster. And after that it was homework. Sometimes we would go out and play instead.

I agree with the 6-9 years old tv time. It is about what we did. But the 4-5 years? I know all my friends learned the most from tv this way. I did not because we didn’t have cable. We watched pbs.

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Post by lostlogin »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #253
akagr wrote: post #103

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My Sony TV has android and is fairly responsive. Maybe a second lag, but definitely not 10-20 secs. I do need to give it time to “warm up” when I start it, though. I use it so rarely it’s generally turned off from wall outlet. I still prefer Apple TV for various reasons, though, responsiveness being one of them.

Sony TVs are some of the most sane options in the TV market right now. Generally decent, and they don't fight you if you want to use them without connecting them to the internet. Still not perfect and they'll cost you more, but it's a worthwhile trade to me.

When you watch the Samsung traffic that goes out, it’s grim. It bypasses local dns too.

I Piholed mine with an edge router and redirected port 53 traffic that didn’t come from the Pihole, back to the Pihole with a script.

However I’ve upgraded to a Dream machine pro, and haven’t worked out how to do that so just removed it from having any network access.

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Post by lostlogin »

naravara wrote: post #172
brk wrote: post #48

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That sounds like you have an overly shitty ‘smart’ TV. Plenty of external devices (I’m partial to AppleTV) have no significant lag. Or it could be you’re using some niche service that has its own issues.

The AppleTV is best in class sure but by the standards of older, pre-internet technology the lag is noticeable. The UI itself is smooth, but any time it makes a network call (which it does for damn near everything) it can take some amount of time. And once you introduce receivers and HDMI-ARC and auto switching and frame-rate differences between applications the whole thing just fucking sucks. It’s constantly turning…

> sound cutting out and back on.

Absolutely kills me.

No one else in the house notices when sound is from the shitbox tv speakers rather than the soundbar. It’s a high end Sony, and it’s sound quality is shameful.

Can we sacrifice a few cm of thinness and have some sound?

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Post by mlrtime »

georgefrowny wrote: post #329
tantalor wrote: post #24

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My biggest gripe is how terribly slow it is to navigate UI on a TV. The latency between user input and the UI responding can be upwards of 10-20 seconds. Just incredibly user hostile.

Turn on TV: 3 seconds Roku boots: 10 seconds Meanwhile turn on soundbar: 3 seconds Press Roku remote button: 3 seconds until it wakes up and repairs (remote still eats batteries) Open streaming app: 5-10 seconds Select profile: 3 seconds Scroll about looking for show: 5-20 seconds, or a minute to type it in Select the right episode: 3-10 seconds depending on if it's currently on the right season (somehow not always)…

Rokus are ad selling devices, I wish someone would just hack them [devices] already so we can strip it out.

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Post by austin-cheney »

georgefrowny wrote: post #329
tantalor wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest gripe is how terribly slow it is to navigate UI on a TV. The latency between user input and the UI responding can be upwards of 10-20 seconds. Just incredibly user hostile.

Turn on TV: 3 seconds Roku boots: 10 seconds Meanwhile turn on soundbar: 3 seconds Press Roku remote button: 3 seconds until it wakes up and repairs (remote still eats batteries) Open streaming app: 5-10 seconds Select profile: 3 seconds Scroll about looking for show: 5-20 seconds, or a minute to type it in Select the right episode: 3-10 seconds depending on if it's currently on the right season (somehow not always)…

Everybody complains about performance. Slow software feels like poison.

Except, anything written with a large JavaScript framework is allowed to be slow. In fact slow as syrup is strongly encouraged. To prove it just ask the developers. Mention it could be 8-50x faster just by not using their favorite framework and note the response. Even better, show them a proof of concept and take note of their unemotional objectivity.

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