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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#351

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I guess one issue is that you pay $200/month whether you use it or not. Potentially this could be better for Anthropic. What was not necessarily foreseeable (ok maybe it was) back when that started was that users have invented all kinds of ways to supervise their agents to be as efficient as possible. If they control the client, you can't do that.

What kind of ways to supervise?

ralph-loop & co

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#352
Funnily enough, I didn't know about opencode and will now test it out and likely use it instead.

Improve your client so people prefer it? Nah.

Try to force people to use your client by subsidizing it? Now that's what I'm talking about.

As others said, why not just run a bunch of agents on Claude Code to surpass Opencode? I'm sure that's easy with their unlimited tokens!

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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post #142

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You can't use it as an SDK though, unlike codex

You can though? https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk/overview

That's to build your own agent, similar to the openai agent sdk

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#354

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Well OpenCode already exists and you can connect it to multiple providers, so you could just say that the agentic CLI harness business model as a service/billable feature is no more. In hindsight I would say it never made sense in the first place.

When I compared OpenCode and Claude Code head to head a couple of months ago, Claude Code worked much better for me. I don't know if they closed the gap in the meantime, but for sure Claude Code has improved since then.

OpenCode launched a couple of months ago so that makes sense that it's worse. It's much better than Claude Code now. Somehow for the same model, opencode completes the same work faster than claude code and the ux is much better.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#355

This reminds me of when Anthropic cut first-party access to Claude models in Windsurf as they were about to be acquired by Google. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTCoding/comments/1l2y2kh/anth...

They cut access because OpenAI was about to buy Windsurf. The moment that deal was cancelled access was returned.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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post #258

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Your LSP also can’t do complex reasoning across the purpose of your whole codebase.

Neither LLM can reason about anything. Reasoning is an human trait.

> Neither LLM can reason about anything.

> Reasoning is an human trait.

Note: this is not directed at the commenter or any person in particular. It is directed at various patterns I've noticed.

I often notice claims like the following:

- human intelligence is the "truest" form of intelligence;

- machines can't reason (without very clearly stating what you mean by reasoning);

- [such and such] can only be done by a human (without clearly stating that you mean at the present time with present technology that you know of);

Such claims are in my view, rather unhelpful framings – or worse, tropes or thought-terminated clichés. We would be wise to ask ourselves how such things persist.

How do these ideas lodge in our brains? There are various shaky premises (including cognitive missteps) that lead to them. So I want to make some general comments that often lead to the above kind of thinking.

It is more important than ever for people to grow their understanding and appreciation. I suggest considering the following.

1. ... recognize that one probably can't offer a definition of {reasoning, intelligence, &c} that is widely agreed upon. Probably the best you can hope for is to clarify the sense of which you mean. There are often fairly clear 'camps' that can easily be referenced.

2. Recognition that implicitly hiding a definition in your claims -- or worse, forcing a definition on people -- doesn't do much good.

3. Awareness that one's language may be often interpreted in various ways by reasonable people.

4. Internalize dictionaries are catalogs of various usage that evolve over time. Dictionaries are not intended to be commandments of correctness, though some still think dictionary-as-bludgeon is somehow appropriate.

3. Acknowledge confusing terminology in AI/LLM in particular. For example, reasonable people can recognize that "reasoning" in this context is a fraught term.

5. Recognition that humanity is only getting started when it comes to making sense of how "intelligence" decomposes, how our brains work, the many nuanced differences between machine intelligence and human intelligence.

6. Recognize one's participation in a social context. Strive to not provide fuel for the fires of misunderstanding. If you use a fraught term, be extra careful to say what you mean.

7. Hopefully obvious: sweeping generalizations and blanket black-or-white statements are unlikely to be true unless you are talking about formal systems like logic and mathematics. Just don't do it. Don't let your thinking fall into that trap. And don't spew it -- that insults the intelligence of one's audience.

8. Generally speaking, people would be wise† to think about upping their epistemic game. If one says things that are obviously inaccurate, you are wasting your intelligence refined over millions of years by evolution and culture. To do so is self-destructive, for it makes oneself less valuable relative to LLMs who (although they blunder) are often more reliable than people who speak carelessly.

† Because it benefits the person directly and it helps culture, civilization, progress, &c

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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post #187

Meanwhile gpt codex 5.2 was never available outside of codex and nobody made a fuss out of it.

It is available in Opencode, you just have to install this plugin: https://github.com/numman-ali/opencode-openai-codex-auth

Been using my ChatGPT sub with Opencode for a couple of weeks now. Only wish I‘d found out sooner. Could have saved a decent chunk of money.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#358

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

What part of a TOS is ridiculous? Claude Code is obviously a loss leader to them, but developer momentum / market share is important to them and they consider it worth it. What part of “OpenCode broke the TOS of something well defined” makes you think it’s all Anthropic’s fault?

My guess is that ultimately the use of Claude code will provide the training data to make most of what you do now in Claude code irrelevant.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#359

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> More importantly, Anthropic should have open sourced their Claude Code CLI a year ago. (They can and should just open source it now.) "Should have" for what reason? I would be happy if they open sourced Claude Code, but the reality is that Claude Code is what makes Anthropic so relevant in the programming more, much more than the Claude models themselves. Asking them to give it away for free to their competitors se…

Claude code is nothing more than a loop to Opus.

I use Q/aka kiro-cli at work with opus and it's clearly inferior to CC within the first 30s or so of usage. So no, not quite

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

#360

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

What part of a TOS is ridiculous? Claude Code is obviously a loss leader to them, but developer momentum / market share is important to them and they consider it worth it. What part of “OpenCode broke the TOS of something well defined” makes you think it’s all Anthropic’s fault?

Poor behavior is still poor behavior even if the relevant ToS aligns with it.
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