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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by amir734jj »

FilosofumRex wrote: post #350
perching_aix wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The "regime" is a republic with regularly held presidential (8 presidents in 45 years) and parliamentary elections. I'd think the regime thing refers to the Supreme Leader of 36 years and his Guardian Council, no?

so are kings of England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Netherlands & Arabia. The Guardian Council is an elected body with the power to remove the so-called "Supreme Leader", so his power is limited too and is not hereditary, unlike monarchies of Europe and Asia

But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council, and their memeber elect Assembly of Experts that elect the supreme leader :)

We have ChatGPT. We are not dumb. Stop the propaganda.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by HNisCIS »

H8crilA wrote: post #338
HNisCIS wrote: post #304

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This assumes you're jamming very close to the dish. The trouble with jamming is you have to deal with the inverse square law so you really can't deny very much area. If they have a fleet of hundreds of high power modern directional jammers they could degrade this or other networks, but they're just not going to have that kind of sophistication.

Oh, I was thinking of jamming the receivers of the satellites. Should have written it explicitly, it is indeed not clear.

Either way, you'd need to jam several with quite a bit of power

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by mrguyorama »

rvnx wrote: post #293
syncsynchalt wrote: post #195

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I didn't know this, so I pulled up a cite for anyone else interested: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-expands-sanctions-exception...

Thank you both! I understand it better now. This is not Elon bypassing the rules but rather that the US wants to support the protests so they make an exemption; so it makes sense from a foreign policy perspective. I really didn't think it like this.

It's the exact same reasoning that drove the NSA to build Tor. Like, enabling widespread internet use in Iran that cannot be censored has been policy for the US.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by FilosofumRex »

amir734jj wrote: post #351
FilosofumRex wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so are kings of England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Netherlands & Arabia. The Guardian Council is an elected body with the power to remove the so-called "Supreme Leader", so his power is limited too and is not hereditary, unlike monarchies of Europe and Asia

But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council, and their memeber elect Assembly of Experts that elect the supreme leader :) We have ChatGPT. We are not dumb. Stop the propaganda.

> But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council No he doesn't... Half of are recommended by judiciary to be approved by Parliament, the other half are appointed by the supreme leader for six year term. This ensures all three branches of government have equal stakes. It's not unlike the House of Lords in England, half of whose members are appointed by the king or are hereditary.

The Assembly of Experts members are elected directly by the people every 8 years, and it operates independently of the Guardian Council once it's seated.

Who elects your king? Trump or Satanyahu

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by weezing »

protocolture wrote: post #317
bawolff wrote: post #300

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> Starlink usually lacks the bandwidth to tunnel traffic very far. In most countries the ground station is in the same country. My bet is, a neighboring country, within reach of Iranian missiles. Oman and Turkey are listed but that data is old. You really think iran is going to bomb turkey (a nato country) over this?

No, because they arent trying to prevent all communication with the outside world, they are trying to prevent organisation within their country. Leaving 0.1% of users online is acceptable. Now if they actually did want to censor the internet, Suicide McBombervest or a missile or something would find that ground station. They simply dont give a shit.

Of course they do give a shit. Last thing they want is Turkish boots on the ground, a country way closer culturally than US or Israel.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by amir734jj »

FilosofumRex wrote: post #354
amir734jj wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council, and their memeber elect Assembly of Experts that elect the supreme leader :) We have ChatGPT. We are not dumb. Stop the propaganda.

> But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council No he doesn't... Half of are recommended by judiciary to be approved by Parliament, the other half are appointed by the supreme leader for six year term. This ensures all three branches of government have equal stakes. It's not unlike the House of Lords in England, half of whose members are appointed by the king or are hereditary. The Assembly of Experts members ar…

It's a circular logic. He elects people who elect him.

Again. I don't want a king. I want people not to die when they go protest. AM I ASKING TOO MUCH??

It seems like you are great at repeating propaganda points and don't actually live in Iran because otherwise you wouldn't have internet.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by blumenkraft »

oblio wrote: post #337
kelvinjps10 wrote: post #290

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You also forget how panama Germany, Japan, South Korea are better now after removing their authoritarian regimes.

You're conveniently leaving out the other 80% of cases, which were failures.

A failure can simply try again (and again, and again...)

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by bawolff »

weezing wrote: post #356
protocolture wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because they arent trying to prevent all communication with the outside world, they are trying to prevent organisation within their country. Leaving 0.1% of users online is acceptable. Now if they actually did want to censor the internet, Suicide McBombervest or a missile or something would find that ground station. They simply dont give a shit.

Of course they do give a shit. Last thing they want is Turkish boots on the ground, a country way closer culturally than US or Israel.

Importantly Turkey is a very powerful country that is right in the area. Even without its nato allies, turkey is probably peer to Iran. Israel was restrained by having very limited ability to strike so far from their homeland. Turkey wouldn't have that problem.
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