It’s so foreign to me that anyone would want this in their life.
When was the last time you had to deal with healthcare for anything other than visible/testable issues?
For the last 7-8 years.
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#352I pity the doctors who will now have to deal with such self-diagnosed "patients". Wonder if General Medicine doctors will see a drop in patient, as AI convinces you to see a specialist with its diagnosis?
I have been misdiagnosed and taken wrong medicine for 4 years for a problem by a top specialist, the doctor kept making up reasons on why I'm not getting better.
By luck I consulted with another specialist due the former doctor not being available at and odd time, and some re-tests help determine that I need a different class of medicines. I was better within months.
4 years of wrong medicines and over confidence from a leading doctor. Now I have a tool to double check what doctor has recommended.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you giving your vitals to Sam Altman just like that? What instrument?
Yes, if it will help me and others. Again, I understand those who disagree.
And what if it harms you?
What if you have to pay health insurrance because of the collected data or what if you don't get certain insurrances?
Most People don't have ap roblem that someone gets their medical data but that these information is used to their disadvantage.
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#354This is absolutely going to kill people. In a country that had even a modicum of regulation around providing healthcare this would be illegal.
It's also absolutely going to save people. The question is what the acceptable (and the actual) ratio is.
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#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know someone who used ChatGPT to diagnose themselves with a rare and specific disease. They paid out of pocket for some expensive and intrusive diagnostics that their doctor didn't want to perform and it came out, surprise, that they didn't have this disease. The faith of this person in ChatGPT remains nonetheless just as high. I'm constantly amazed at the attitude that doctors are useless and that their multiple y…
They're not useless but they're also human with limited time and limited amount of inputs. To me it's crazy that doctors rarely ask me if I'm taking any medications for example, since meds can have some pretty serious side effects. ChatGPT Health reportedly connects to Apple Health and reads the medications you're on; to me that's huge.
Understanding drug interactions is the job of pharmacists (who are also doctors…of pharmacy). Instead of asking apple health or ChatGpt about your meds, please try talking to your pharmacist.
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#356Was anyone able to get past the 404 page to actually join the waitlist or try this? I hit the 404 and seems like most folks on X did too, e.g. replies to Greg Brockman's announcement here: https://x.com/gdb/status/2008984705723719884
Argh of course I posted this and then when I tried one more time after the page finally worked. Ignore the above; the page seems to work now (points to a waitlist).
Fun fact: There's a saying for this in german: 'Vorführeffekt', or 'Demonstration Effect'.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
General doctors aren't trained for problem solving, they're trained for memorization. The doctors that are good at problem solving aren't general doctors.
They’re not even trained for memorization. They’re trained for mitigation and I don’t really blame them for the crap pay they receive. Over the course of a 40-year career they basically make what a typical junior dev makes. It’s fast becoming a rich man’s hobby career.
What ? In most countries, including the U.S, they are a very highly paid profession (I'm not talking about the internship phase)
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#359I help take care of my 80-ish year old mother. ChatGPT figured out in 5 minutes the reason behind a pretty serious chronic problem that her very good doctors hadn't been able to figure out in 3 years. Her doctors came around to the possibility, tested out the hypothesis, and it was 100% right. She's doing great now (at least with that one thing). That's not to say that it's better than doctors or even that it's a goo…
>She's doing great now (at least with that one thing).
This is the problem with all the old people.
The massive costs like this.
Now next thing to do to hospital for.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But I don’t know if I should be denied access because of those people. That's the majority of people though, if you really think that I assume you wouldn't have a problem with needing to be licenced to have this kind of access, right?
Depends. If you're talking about a free online test I can take to prove I have basic critical thinking skills, maybe, but that's still a slippery slope. As a legal adult with the right to consent to all sorts of things, I shouldn't have to prove my competence to someone else's satisfaction before I'm allowed autonomy to make my own personal decisions. If what you're suggesting is a license that would cost money and/o…
Yes, the threshold for restricting freedom should be harm to others not harm to oneself.