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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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> My bank has an option to send me a notification every time I'm charged for something.

Wait, your bank doesn't do that by default? I've always assumed it's default behavior of most banks.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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GPU and RAM supply doesn't change over the course of one weekend usually though. So there would have been no reason not to wait until Monday or do it before Saturday.

So, what, exactly, is the correct day of the week to raise prices?

I don't think that the day of the week matters that much. But the correct way to rise prices is clearly: - announce the new prices and the day from which on they are valid. - ensure that your customers have time to react based on your announcement.

Based on the article it seems like the only information before the change was "some day in january we will change prices" which would not be enough for me as a customer...

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Headline: hopes you weren't paying attention Body: The change had been telegraphed: AWS's pricing page noted (and bizarrely, still does) that "current prices are scheduled to be updated in January, 2026," though the company neglected to mention which direction. These do not seem entirely consistent? . > This comes about seven months after AWS trumpeted "up to 45% price reductions" for GPU instances - though that anno…

> These do not seem entirely consistent? > But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused la…

Douglas Adams was a treasure, but I don’t think he was describing putting pricing information on the pricing page.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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To me this all seems like downstream from massive capital expenses on GPU purchases, driving up the demand for memory, etc. It begs the question of how much of the GPU capacity that has been sold/delivered actually being utilized? Are we paying across the board for a bunch of inventory sitting idle?

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Approx 2/3rds of Americans pay Apple monthly for storage, according to consumer research. Original source is paywalled but lifted quotes here: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2024/08/21/cirp-survey-apple-i... The smallest one is the cheapest, it's basic economics to assume that it sells the best. I would guess 60%+ buy the smallest, and I don't even need to look at data. You're welcome to disprove me. The popularity of…

I don't know that I buy your basic economics theory. Starter prices are a thing to get people in the door and upsell them later. According to [0], the iphone 17 pro has a larger share than the regular 17, although it's more expensive. And, again, paying for cloud storage doesn't automatically mean that they do it because their local storage is too small for their needs. Apple pushed iCloud as a solution to safely bac…

> Starter prices are a thing to get people in the door and upsell them later.

Yes, with services such as storage.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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The “hopes you weren't paying attention” part of the headline seems needlessly inflammatory. All I see is demand rising into a supply-limited market (GPUs and RAM). That doesn’t seem nefarious, just high-school economics.

But why do it on a Saturday, when none of their customers are working?

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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What's the most cost-effective way to run open source models using cloud infrastructure? AWS? Digital Ocean? salad.com? Lambda.ai? Vast.ai? Use case is infrequent and small usage, but needs to be able to scale to match increasing demand.

ssh admin.hotaisle.app

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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I guess somewhere this year having your own GPU might be cheaper than renting.

When was buying a device from the manufacturer not cheaper than paying a middleman to manage rentals of said device?

When you need to scale up and down dynamically.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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When was buying a device from the manufacturer not cheaper than paying a middleman to manage rentals of said device?

When you need to scale up and down dynamically.

Then the claim above can never be falsified because there will always be a value you can plug into the equation at which it's cheaper to rent (like at 50% occupancy, at 5%, at 0.5%... so long as you're not the only person in the world who wants to use the device being offered for loan). I would assume we're talking about a common workload where one actually needs the device that one considers purchasing for some reasonable fraction of the time and not less than half the time
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