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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by fragmede »

anjel wrote: post #297
nospice wrote: post #170

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> most artists dont really care about streaming or selling their music. most of their real money comes from touring, merch, and people somehow interacting with them. I think you have it the wrong way round. I'm sure that musicians would love to make money from album / song sales. It's just that between piracy and companies like Spotify, artists make pennies on these activities, so their only choice is to make money o…

I think it was was Les Claypool (of the band Primus) who said on some podcast that recording a studio album with its attendant very non-trivial costs is really just creating a very expensive business card to hand out to prospective clients.

Back then, that is. It probably cost $250k in 1990 for them to record Frizzle Fry in a studio, handwave $500k in 2025 dollars. But Bandcamp on MacBook and some gear from GuitarStudio, round to $15k and your time. neither of which isn't trivial or cheap, but it's not 1990 no more.

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Post by udev4096 »

some-guy wrote: post #101
leetbulb wrote: post #82

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Yes. RIP a ton of very rare material. What.cd has a special place in my heart.

Redacted.sh is a worthy successor, but the average person just doesn’t care about “which release is best” anymore. I use YT Music as a backup but Redacted is my main source of music these days.

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Post by KomoD »

derkades wrote: post #257
WD-42 wrote: post #7

Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

It is not hard. But please don't misuse it and ruin the fun for everyone. It is nice to be able to use the music relatively easily for hobby projects. My music server has functionality to play tracks from Spotify this way: https://codeberg.org/raphson/music-server/src/branch/main/sp...

Where the magic actually happens: https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by fragmede »

karamanolev wrote: post #186
some-guy wrote: post #101

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Redacted.sh is a worthy successor, but the average person just doesn’t care about “which release is best” anymore. I use YT Music as a backup but Redacted is my main source of music these days.

Don't you consider it best to ... redact ... your post, as it's the only one mentioning it by name?

Some people just don't know when to shut the hell up.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

ChadNauseam wrote: post #90
WD-42 wrote: post #16

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Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album. There are much easier avenues than that. What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. Buy CDs. Use Bandcamp.

> What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. My spotify wrapped says I listened for 50,000 minutes this year. Assuming 2 minutes per song, that's 25,000 streams. I paid them $110, aka $0.004/stream. Assuming I'm a typical user, they obviously could not afford to pay any more than that per stream. I googled "spotify pay per listen" and the first result is a reddit comment saying "The average…

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Post by userbinator »

Music files (releasing in order of popularity)

Increasing or decreasing? IMHO increasing would make more sense, as the most popular music is already mirrored in countless other places. It's the rare stuff that is most in need of preservation.

I wonder how much of the content there is AI-generated. Honestly, even as someone who was initially skeptical, I've found some of it to be rather good --- not knowing that it was AI-generated at first. Now if they could only reverse-engineer the prompt and only store the model, that would be an extremely efficient form of "compression".

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Post by lurk2 »

whstl wrote: post #294
jMyles wrote: post #269

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> DRM free digital music from all of the record labels Is this true? Can you show me where I can get DRM-free releases from Mountain Fever? Better yet, can you add that information here? https://pickipedia.xyz/wiki/DRM-free

The "iTunes going DRM free" was a big deal around 2008. https://web.archive.org/web/20070207234839/http://www.apple.... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2008/may/15/drm.apple

I remember trying to use music I had bought in a slideshow that year and finding out that I couldn’t load tracks with DRM into the editor I was using; it was very frustrating.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by injidup »

troupo wrote: post #200
lkramer wrote: post #141

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Which is how Spotify started... And is still carrying on. So nothing has changed.

Spotify pays 70% of revenue to rights holders . Why don't you ask them where the money inteded for artists is going? You know? The small insignificant companies of Sony, Warner Music, EMI that own the vast majority of music and own all the contracts?

That is the decision of artists to sign with a mega corp. Any tom dick or harry can create a Spotify account, load their warbling autotuned ditty written by themselves ( or AI ) on any theme, in any genre and wait for fame or fortune to appear or not. You can take your 70% or whatever the exact number is with no.middle man if you like.

Unfortunately the number of people producing music and the quantity of it is much higher than the number of people able to consume it. And culture is simply network effects. You listen to what your friends or family listen to. Thus there are only a small number of artists who make it big in a cultural sense.

And one of the cheat codes for cracking the cultural barrier is to use a mega corp to advertise for you but if course the devil takes his cut.

Anyway AI is coming for all these mega corps. If you haven't tried SUNO and many of you have it's amazing how convincingly it can crack specific Genres and churn out quality music. Call it slop if you like but the trajectory is obvious.

As a consumer you will get you own custom music feed singing songs about YOUR life or desired life and you will share those on your social media account and some of those will go viral most will die.

Content creation as a career is probably dead.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by oarfish »

virtualritz wrote: post #207

I just found out that https://annas-archive.li/ is masked by my German internet provider (SIM.de/Drillisch). I usually use a VPN but I had it switched off temp. to watch Fallout (Prime Video won't let you watch through a VPN). Only when I switched Mullvad back on could I open the site. I didn't know German providers do this.

Yeah this is actually quite nefarious, as it is a private organization that decides what sites get blocked, with no legal oversight.

- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearingstelle_Urheberrecht_im...

- https://netzpolitik.org/2024/cuii-liste-diese-websites-sperr...

Its a DNS based block, so overriding your default DNS server is enough to circumvent it. I think Dns over Https also works.

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