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It got archived https://archive.is/D1Ail
Where is the archive available for use?
In that link. "Uploaded" column in table is archive links. Or scroll to "archive efforts" for links to torrents.
Coursera to combine with Udemy
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Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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> It seems pretty likely to me that NAD's lawsuits are more about this, and less about actually caring about deaf access. There are a lot of them, and they seem to go for big pockets. Probably the efforts Berkeley went to to offer accessibility would have been deemed good enough to not sue over (for now) if they had donated. It's a convenient narrative. Here's another one: Senior administrator at the university doesn…
If I wrote something for my own use and decided to open source it and then someone hypothetically decided to sue me because it wasn’t accessible, I would say f%%%. them too and take it down.
> If I wrote something for my own use and decided to open source it and then someone hypothetically decided to sue me because it wasn’t accessible, I would say f%%%. them too and take it down.
The difference is that they won't win in court. There's no law requiring you to make your open source work accessible - unless that open source work was part of a project for which you got federal grants.
Sorry, but it's clear that many commenters to this thread no almost nothing about what happened, and are merely engaging in outrage mania.
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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It's not about money it's about making sure things are accessible. The ADA is one of the reasons America is more accessible then Europe. Lawsuits are the enforcement mechanism
Your argument is that someone sued Berkeley for posting free education materials online purely in the name of accessibility and not to make a quick buck? Free education provided at zero profit to Berkeley, to great benefit to the public, and it was just the wholesome desire for subtitles that made the case? Bullshit.
> and not to make a quick buck?
Tell us - how much money did they make?
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, and without subtitles, the course content is not accessible to the deaf and hard of hearing... which the law says it has to be. UC Berkeley decided not to make their content accessible, and when someone complained, they took it all apart rather than making a reasonable (and legally required) accommodation. I guess I don't see why I'd blame the person filing the lawsuit here. UC Berkeley could have just... put u…
The person could have volunteered to write the subtitles themselves or, if they were deaf, to hire someone or even ask someone to volunteer to write subtitles. Or any other number of solutions. To jump immediately to litigation is aggressive and shows that their true motive was not to actually enable the production of courses with good subtitles.
Why should they do any of that when Berkeley was in clear violation of the law, and easily demonstrated to be at fault?
As I said - if this is such an obvious wrong, fix the damn law. As it is written, Berkeley didn't have a leg to stand on.
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about money it's about making sure things are accessible. The ADA is one of the reasons America is more accessible then Europe. Lawsuits are the enforcement mechanism
How accessible is the course now?
> How accessible is the course now?
Entirely irrelevant.
If a city has a public library, but refuses to build a wheelchair ramp, and an elevator to upper floors, and doesn't provide reasonable alternatives to these deficiencies, they can (and should) get sued. If the city then throws up their hand and says "Too expensive" and shuts down the library (everyone suffers), I will not be siding with the library.
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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How is malicious compliance the fault of someone who asks for disability accomodations? It is unfortunate that the ADA is designed so that the only mechanism of enforcement of disability rights is lawsuits. :-\ Maybe there should be some exceptions around things provided on a "best-effort" basis, if they can be very carefully crafted.
For context: I have cerebral palsy. Play the smallest fiddle for me, it only affects my left hand and slightly my left foot. But I’ve been a part time fitness instructor, properly conditioned I have run decently (10 minute mile) up to a 15K before my slight favoring of my right leg takes it’s toll and I’ve been a gym rat since 1990 and I just left the gym. But I would never expect someone giving out a free service to…
> But I would never expect someone giving out a free service to spend extra money to make accommodations for me.
And you should not expect all disabled people in the country to waive their rights just because you do.
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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> Nah you won't. Js frameworks comme and go all the time React was released 12 years ago, and since then a few React clones popped up as well such as Preact.
React occupies a very similar place today as angular did back in the day, and angular is on life support, if that.
I don't know what argument you think you are making. React was released in 2011 whereas AngularJS was released in 2010 and Angular2+, what we actually call Angular, was released in 2014.
So your counter examples of popularity are projects what at best started out at the same time as React but unlike React winded down in popularity.
After over a decade l, React is not only the most popular framework by far but also is the support framework for a few of the top 10 frameworks.
So what point did you thought you were making? That React managed to become the dominant framework whereas your examples didn't?
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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> Did I miss a new C++ version released You certainly are missing something. C++26 was officially released 4 months ago, and support is slowly being rolled out to compilers and packages. https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support/26.html If you somehow believe this kind of work is done in a couple of days, that's a good way to explain to the world how oblivious you are about the topic you are discussing.
> If you somehow believe this kind of work is done in a couple of days, that's a good way to explain to the world how oblivious you are about the topic you are discussing. And, in turn, you appear to be oblivious to the point - the release cadence of this best-case scenario still means like a decade between updates to the project. C++26 was released 4months ago; pointless to update it until compilers and deps are upd…
> And, in turn, you appear to be oblivious to the point - the release cadence of this best-case scenario still means like a decade between updates to the project.
It doesn't seem you are managing to think the issue all the way through. Even if you believe you can claim that release cadence is a factor, C++26 is the latest release in a process that outputs a new version every two years. Therefore, your argument would lead you to agree that there is a greater need for maintenance as there are more releases still evolving.
> C++26 was released 4months ago; pointless to update it until compilers and deps are updated.
This is a silly argument to make. At best you are trying to argue that you somehow believe maintenance needs aren't as urgent. Except urgency is irrelevant to the discussion, and the whole argument is derived from specious reasoning to begin with.
It sounds like you are fully invested in contrarianism and not invested at all in thinking about the issue you are trying to discuss. This is not the best use of anyone's time.
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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You double check every university lecture you've been apart of?
Did you just sit there in class and then never do anything with what you learned afterwards? That certainly isn't how I approached university.
Doing something with the knowledge given in a lecture is very distinct from fact checking it
Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy
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For context: I have cerebral palsy. Play the smallest fiddle for me, it only affects my left hand and slightly my left foot. But I’ve been a part time fitness instructor, properly conditioned I have run decently (10 minute mile) up to a 15K before my slight favoring of my right leg takes it’s toll and I’ve been a gym rat since 1990 and I just left the gym. But I would never expect someone giving out a free service to…
> But I would never expect someone giving out a free service to spend extra money to make accommodations for me. And you should not expect all disabled people in the country to waive their rights just because you do.
So how did that work out for the hypothetical “disabled person”? Now they nor anyone else has access to the free content.