> HDMI 2.0 The HDMI Forum yet again rearing it's ugly head by continuing to block GPU manufacturers from implementing HDMI 2.1 in the Open Source drivers
"Luckily," the hardware won't allow for 4k@120Hz on visually cutting edge games anyway.
Steam Machine
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#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, gemini gives $649 - $699 for BOM, $749+ if they want some margin from the hardware. Which is cheaper than most "Gaming PC", but still more expensive than Switch/PS5, and lack the expandability of PC. I wish they could sell at $300-$500, that's really going to make this a must have for this year.
Using the deck prices seems like a good place to start unless they're using the opportunity to change strategy. It's an updated SoC, but minus a screen, battery, separate dock, built-in controller, and less pressure to pack it in a handheld chassis. They mention a built in wireless adapter for the controller, so I assume there will be bundles with and without a controller.
I feel the same way, it has to be priced in the range of gaming console rather than gaming PC.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a issue of critical mass. With the continued growth of steamos, steamdeck, and linux as a game platform, eventually it will pull over support.
I have to wonder if it's possible to ever even guarantee something that can't be trivially bypassed on Linux - Windows, sure, it's possible with DMA, but it's damn hard. On Linux you could just compile a spoofed kernel or a DKMS module or something.
is it not possible for someone to have Linux spoof that it's Windows to the game?
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
All my friends have moved on to PC, and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at this point in my life. And SteamDeck doesn't support KB+M well. I have no qualms about couch gaming with a KB+M if I can do it with my friends and my already extensive Steam library. Unless they completely drop the ball on this, I'm in.
> and I don't really want to build a $1000 minimum computer with crazy LEDs that takes up a ton of space with a monitor at this point in my life. The beauty of a PC is you can build whatever you want. It doesn't need to be large, and doesn't need to have LEDs. There are plenty of small form factor cases on the market with the same footprint as this one.
Yep, but you need to put insane amounts of research into figuring out which GPUs and CPU coolers can fit your small case...
And then you get your case and mobo and PSU and maybe CPU and your budget is already at over 1000€ and you still need a GPU.
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#355Looks like the og Nintendo Gamecube but modernized.
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#356"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market. Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop 0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...
Paywalled, and also The Verge. https://archive.vn/ndOmA
What is the controversy?
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#357I’m just not seeing the market for this. Why not build a better steam deck dock instead?
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#358Is this the end of Windows for gaming?
The beginning of the end.
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#359Sorry… expandable via microsd? They’re terribly slow and unreliable, just cattle-chute us to using ssds over usb like consoles
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#360Pretty much the only reason I boot to Windows anymore is to play games with my kids and family. The direction of this thing is dangerously close to being all I'd care about from a desktop computer. If Valve pivoted into making a well-supported laptop with good hardware that ran Linux and played games...
Just wondering, what games are you playing that dont run on Linux yet? I can't think of games I'd play much with family that dont work well
Battlefield, Call of Duty, Apex Legends, PUBG, Rainbow 6 Siege, Fortnite
Basically all the games I play regularly with my friends.